Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Feb 20th 2019, 12:02 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Shard
Yes they did. I have a feeling it is partly a political decision though, they know it will play well to the public, and I think even Javid is looking towards his own ambitions.
Feb 20th 2019, 12:17 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
She is not the first dual to go this way, and I do not see how her case is different.
I seem to remember most US Citizens do not have a US Passport, I have no idea if she has a current British Passport or it expired ditto her Bangladeshi Passport.
Also seems unclear where she was born.
The Baby may have a claim for Dutch Citizenship by the sound of it and I thought Dutch did not allow dual citizenship?
What a mess.
I seem to remember most US Citizens do not have a US Passport, I have no idea if she has a current British Passport or it expired ditto her Bangladeshi Passport.
Also seems unclear where she was born.
The Baby may have a claim for Dutch Citizenship by the sound of it and I thought Dutch did not allow dual citizenship?
What a mess.
Feb 20th 2019, 12:35 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Boiler
She is not the first dual to go this way, and I do not see how her case is different.
I seem to remember most US Citizens do not have a US Passport, I have no idea if she has a current British Passport or it expired ditto her Bangladeshi Passport.
Also seems unclear where she was born.
The Baby may have a claim for Dutch Citizenship by the sound of it and I thought Dutch did not allow dual citizenship?
What a mess.
I seem to remember most US Citizens do not have a US Passport, I have no idea if she has a current British Passport or it expired ditto her Bangladeshi Passport.
Also seems unclear where she was born.
The Baby may have a claim for Dutch Citizenship by the sound of it and I thought Dutch did not allow dual citizenship?
What a mess.
Her child would remain British and entitled to a British passport presuming she is actually able to register the birth with the Syrian government which seems unlikely. I suspect the Dutch won’t be taking any interest at all in the child.
Feb 20th 2019, 12:48 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by BritInParis
As you say there’s also a dispute about whether she was born in the UK or Bangladesh.
Feb 20th 2019, 12:51 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by BEVS
There is a UK birth reg. for a person of the same name born in the Tower Hamlets area 2qtr 1999. Mother's name as Begum .
Feb 20th 2019, 12:57 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by BritInParis
I count several more around the same time in Tower Hamlets. Too common a name in the Bangladeshi community there to say with any certainty that it is her. Lots of newspaper interviews with her mother that fail to mention her name beyond “Shamima’s mother” so no help in narrowing it down.
Feb 20th 2019, 1:28 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by BritInParis
She actually left the UK on her sister’s passport so she wouldn’t have one to return on even if she wasn’t about to be stripped of her citizenship. As you say there’s also a dispute about whether she was born in the UK or Bangladesh.
Her child would remain British and entitled to a British passport presuming she is actually able to register the birth with the Syrian government which seems unlikely. I suspect the Dutch won’t be taking any interest at all in the child.
Her child would remain British and entitled to a British passport presuming she is actually able to register the birth with the Syrian government which seems unlikely. I suspect the Dutch won’t be taking any interest at all in the child.
"Before making an order under this section in respect of a person the Secretary of State must give the person written notice specifying—"
According to this article the letter:
"... asks her mother to pass on details of the order to her daughter, who is currently in a Syrian refugee camp without access to a phone".
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hip-be-stopped
I don't see how this is going to pass legal muster. A British official is going to have to serve her, not her mum. So something else for lawyers to latch onto.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bangladesh preemptively washing their hands of her if she doesn't currently hold a Bangladeshi passport.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Feb 20th 2019 at 1:35 am.
Feb 20th 2019, 1:36 am
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
The most interesting thing in that statute is this:
"Before making an order under this section in respect of a person the Secretary of State must give the person written notice specifying—"
According to this article the letter:
"... asks her mother to pass on details of the order to her daughter, who is currently in a Syrian refugee camp without access to a phone".
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hip-be-stopped
I don't see how this is going to pass legal muster. A British official is going to have to serve her, not her mum. So something else for lawyers to latch onto.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bangladesh preemptively washing their hands of her if she doesn't currently hold a Bangladeshi passport.
"Before making an order under this section in respect of a person the Secretary of State must give the person written notice specifying—"
According to this article the letter:
"... asks her mother to pass on details of the order to her daughter, who is currently in a Syrian refugee camp without access to a phone".
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hip-be-stopped
I don't see how this is going to pass legal muster. A British official is going to have to serve her, not her mum. So something else for lawyers to latch onto.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bangladesh preemptively washing their hands of her if she doesn't currently hold a Bangladeshi passport.
