Lynn R

I did enjoy the reports of Andrew having turned up at Windsor Castle to meet with the Queen yesterday accompanied by his personal lawyer "Good News Gary" (so called because he tells Andrew only what he wants to hear) - and the lawyer was refused admittance and made to wait in the car park for 90 minutes. Still I suppose he'll be billing Andrew by the minute anyway. I would love to know where the money came from for Andrew to have reportedly made the final payment of almost 6 million for his ski chalet in Verbier very recently, which clears the way for the property to be sold in order to pay his legal bills - and maybe a settlement to Virginia Giuffre if she is minded to accept one, which appears in some doubt at present. I can't see him having found that kind of money down the back of the sofa and his oligarch friends might not be so happy to oblige now his influence and connections have deserted him.

macliam

I am awaiting the petition from other Andrews that his name be withdrawn now, closely followed by those of all Alberts. Christians and Edwards. Even Wlndsors might complain, though reverting to Saxe-Coburg-Gotha may be a mouthful (no jokes intended). Mountbatten is a possibility, but reverting to Battenburg would clearly upset Nutek. Therefore it seems someone must step forward with a suggestion and, in a gesture of kindness from a former colony, I thought to offer Gobshite, as he clearly has an issue there. But then I decided on something to celebrate his aerial history combined with what we know of the rest of him - Shitehawk.

Jerseygirl

If she doesn’t settle, I wonder how much money she could make from selling film rights, writing a book, interviews etc? Maybe it would be a lot more than Andrew can cough up.

kimilseung

Jesus Christ

dave_j

Ms Giuffre, now that it's established that her erstwhile agreement with Epstein protects none of her tormentors, must be running her finger down the list of the well heeled wondering who'll to sue next.

Likewise, there must be a number of elderly men who'll be assessing their chances of appeasing Ms Giuffre if she remembers their names.

How many, I wonder, have started collecting their own mail before the staff get to see see who sent it?

With such powerful men potentially on the hook, is it any wonder that Epstein was got rid of committed suicide.

Jerseygirl

That may be her motive for not settling out of court.

macliam

Nope, he won't help.

The only answer now is that Shitehawk shoots himself with a shovel. His dad died before he could accientally run him over........

macliam

To be continued.......

philat98

The thing I cannot understand is why Andrew was the only VIP photographed with one of Epstein's girls. From reports there seems to have been many girls involved and many VIPs flying in the Lolita Express.

Lion in Winter

Guiffre - sexually abused by a family connection as a child. Living in foster homes and on the street from 13 on. Controlled and abused by convicted sex trafficker Ron Eppinger for a period of months, who pimped her out to pedophiles. Worked at Trump's club where she was picked up by Maxwell and taken to Epstein, who received her naked, and where she was told to massage him, and subsequently passed round to Epstein's friends, including Andrew.

And the attacks here are directed at her, and she is accused of money-grubbing, and jokes are made?

Jesus Christ.

Jerseygirl

Whatever the outcome…I say good for her. Hopefully her actions will encourage other girls Epstein trafficked to come forward.

macliam

Not by me..... I'm willing to believe that Shitehawk is guilty as charged. The only thing I don't believe is that he knew that Giuffre had been trafficked - and that's not because I think much of him, it's because I don't think he would have given a sh*t as long as his jolly roger was being raised. Wouldn't then and wouldn't now, because he would no more ask why she was doing what she was doing than he would ask a footman if he liked his job.

dave_j

I see no attacks here.
I see a great many comments, criticism and innuendo being made at Andrew's and other's expense, and an understanding at her acting to extract some recompense, but I don't see attacks.
I think most here, probably like me, see Ms Giuffre as a victim of the powerful using a legal system, so often used by them to shield their activities from plain view, to take them to task and good for her.

Jerseygirl

Well said

Annetje

Wow, bit insensitive.