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Old Jan 12th 2018, 8:59 pm
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
I see circa 50k, am I misreading this table?
https://travel.state.gov/content/dam...t-TableVII.pdf
That number ignores the dependents.

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:00 pm
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UN definition: "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin
Sounds like national borders and border control is "racist" by definition.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:01 pm
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100,000 applicants, but only 50,000 visas are available each year. Once they hit 50,000, they stop issuing them.
Apologies, I was talking about the number of people that actually move each year under the diversity scheme.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:04 pm
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Apologies, I was talking about the number of people that actually move each year under the diversity scheme.
I think the dependents are add-ons (I'm not an expert) and don't actually get a visa of their own, so that's how they have the cap at 50,000 but more can enter. Figure an average of one dependent per person, then the number of +/- 100,000 does bear out.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:13 pm
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I think the dependents are add-ons (I'm not an expert) and don't actually get a visa of their own, so that's how they have the cap at 50,000 but more can enter. Figure an average of one dependent per person, then the number of +/- 100,000 does bear out.
I had a South African friend when I lived in California and he "won" the Green Card lottery - his wife and kid came with him, so yes, the 100,000+ people coming to the US each year are from the 50,000 visas issued.

It appears like there will be 116K in 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:18 pm
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I had a South African friend when I lived in California and he "won" the Green Card lottery - his wife and kid came with him, so yes, the 100,000+ people coming to the US each year are from the 50,000 visas issued.

It appears like there will be 116K in 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa
I know, I was reconciling the actual figure with the 50,000 visa cap, just to point out that you and Kim were both correct with your numbers, just coming at it from different ends of the process.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:26 pm
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Can I just leave this here ?President Trump-26229981_10155929385099463_4759732399040775992_n.jpg
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by kimilseung View Post
I see circa 50k, am I misreading this table? (Europe and Africa both get about 20,00 per year)
https://travel.state.gov/content/dam...t-TableVII.pdf
No, you're not mis-reading the report. According to that, the U.S. issued 52,342 Diversity visas in 2014.

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That number ignores the dependents.

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa
From your link.

Although only 50,000 diversity visas are available each year, the lottery selects about 100,000 applicants. The reason for the larger selection is to ensure that all 50,000 diversity visas are eventually given each year, as some applicants are expected to fail general immigration requirements or may decide to withdraw and not to continue the process. As a result, some lottery winners who have received notifications might not obtain visas
It mentions nothing about spouses.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
No, you're not mis-reading the report. According to that, the U.S. issued 52,342 Diversity visas in 2014.



From your link.



It mentions nothing about spouses.
keep reading my link and you will see the number of people for each year.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 10:40 pm
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keep reading my link and you will see the number of people for each year.
Right, so a visa application can be for more than one person.

Still only circa 50,000 visas issued.
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Old Jan 12th 2018, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Right, so a visa application can be for more than one person.

Still only circa 50,000 visas issued.
Yes, I've already said that further up. I was looking at total people moving which was running around 116,000 pa under the diversity visa program.

Do keep up.
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On a different topic...pay to shut up a porn star.
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Old Jan 13th 2018, 1:12 am
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Yes, I've already said that further up. I was looking at total people moving which was running around 116,000 pa under the diversity visa program.

Do keep up.
I don't bother responding to your claims until I've verified them myself.
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It makes no ****ing sense anyway. I cancelled my trip because I don't like a building?

No. You cancelled your trip for the same reason you didn't go to the White House Correspondence Dinner. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. Pussy.



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Oh well this has been slipped in during all the racist fervour his small brain & big uncontrolled mouth caused.
A lot off people are going to suffer in Kentucky

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...ce=DDAfternoon
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