Lion in Winter

Exactly.

At this point I'm about ready to worry more about the state of the electorate than of the candidates. And that's saying something

SultanOfSwing

That's the thing. To me (and a great many I'm sure), it's hard to believe the Trump really believes the things he is saying, or has any desire to even be president in the first place, yet there are people out there eating up his every word without a hint of irony. People who think Trump is the answer, that he will be a good and effective leader.

The same people forget that Trump identified as a Democrat for the longest time before his latest presidential bids.

Lion in Winter

I can just see The White House as The Shark Tank.

Former Lancastrian

Here is one Canadian who hopes Trump becomes your next President

SultanOfSwing

May as well just name it the Shite House now and be done with it.

Presumably for the schadenfreude?

Former Lancastrian

Im not denying that some of your cousins north of the 49th parallel might enjoy some of the schadenfreude that would come with Trump becoming President but why should we care who you elect as President as its your country. Are our Merican cousins seriously worried that the general population will actually vote for him? We know you do some stoopid things and argue about gun control or who we should bomb next week but surely not that stoopid to vote him in as President?

SultanOfSwing

I was curious as to why you said you hoped he would become the next President, I thought you wanted a laugh at our expense . One would think that in all seriousness the rest of the world is crossing their fingers for President Sanders, though.

I don't actually think he would win a general election. I'd love to see him go up against Bernie, the debates would be epic. That being said, primaries are a different situation anyway, but I can't see him winning the nomination in the first place.

It is concerning though that a section of our electorate, no matter how small it may be, would support him unironically.

Boiler

Hmmm

Should have just turned at the PoE and demanded my Human Rights...

Gordon Barlow

He's only a joke candidate if you believe that slaughtering Muslims in their home countries is a good thing - a joke, indeed. Every one of his rivals except Sanders is a warmonger whose idea of fun is attacking with rockets those whom they genuinely regard as sub-human. Speaking of "fun", it's on record that drone pilots refer to children living in Afghanistan villages as "fun-sized terrorists". All of Trump's rivals accept this idea of fun; he doesn't. Is that a joke?

Shard

Agreed. I just wonder if Trump, being an extreme narcissist, is now in some kind of non-reality state of mind, and acting in concert with his low brow supporters. Corrupted absolutely by a glittering prize beyond his initial expectations?

Former Lancastrian

He may be but what IF he is elected as President will he turn down the job. Its up to the American voters to stop him unless he withdraws. In the recent Canadian election only 39.5% voted for Trudeau leaving 60% voting against him. Harper won with less

SultanOfSwing

I don't know what's going on with him. We're just going to have to wait to see how the whole thing plays out.

Former Lancastrian

Seriously how much influence/power does a President have? Talk is one thing actions are another.

Wall on the Southern border as an example. Estimated cost 8 Billion.
Trump has vowed to force Mexico to pay for the border wall and said Tuesday on MSNBC that the hefty $8 billion price tag "is a tiny fraction of the money that we lose with Mexico" on trade.

Deport all illegal immigrants yes all 12 million of them.
Mr Trump hasn't set out a timeframe for his mass deportation strategy, but a 2015 study by the American Action Forum (AAF), a conservative think tank, estimates it would take about 20 years to find and deport that many people.

Ban all Muslims entering the USA.
Last time I checked your passport doesn't have religion on it so how do you determine if this person is a Muslim?
Are you a Muslim No then what ask them to eat a hot dog or drink alcohol?

Trump on gun control
I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.

Trump on other issues
Donald Trump on the Issues

Love him or hate him he is certainly stirring things up and some will vote for him.

Shard

That, amigo, is the problem.

Former Lancastrian

Last time I checked an American citizen is free to vote for whoever they want to.
Im no fan of Trump but he is saying things that other won't. Why is that?
How many agree with him on building the wall to keep illegals out? Those that don't are OK with illegal immigration then?