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Old Dec 30th 2015, 1:16 am
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Originally Posted by caretaker View Post
No no no! Besides taking milk off the school lunch program he supported a murderous regime or two in central America and willfully circumvented the law bargaining for hostages in Iran and got Oliver North to take the fall for him. Even if you ignore him continuing to stay in charge while Alzheimer's disease plainly claimed him his presidency was less than stellar. "Tear down this wall" was partly just opportunity, and firing all the air traffic controllers for going on strike was pretty edgy...
Taking milk of the school lunch programme ?

He didn't get that idea from his pal Maggie by any chance,did he ?
.....or maybe it was vice versa.
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Old Dec 30th 2015, 5:09 am
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Depends on your politics and viewpoint. I think Reagan did a reasonable job,but i am not naive enough to think he did it alone.He had some good advisors. Made some pretty far reaching mistakes though i.e. Being best buddies with Maggie and relaxing the banking restrictions.. Does the Donald have such support?would he even allow it?
I seem to remember the rest of the world having a quiet snigger about him taking office though, regardless of his politics and as has been said, he did at least have experience.
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Old Dec 30th 2015, 5:41 am
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There wasn't much wrong with Reagan. The economy did well, he whacked Ghadaffi by showing him that retribution could still come to him on his home turf and he got the hostages released from Iran. He also turned the military around from being a demoralized post Vietnam war force into a new all volunteer force that would years later be capable of expelling Saddam from Kuwait with minimum losses.

I didn't agree with some of his conservative policies and I don't think he could claim credit for toppling the Soviet regime. It was ready to topple anyway and Gorbachev knew it but Reagan and Thatcher did open the door to Gorbachev in what seemed at the time a dramatic change in Russia-US relations and definitely a start towards the end of the Berlin wall and subsequently the cold war.

If some of the Republican voters seem to think that Trump is somehow the new Reagan then they are very definitely mistaken.

Trump has a nasty streak in him that Reagan never had. In one instance this was demonstrated while Trump was giving a speech to an audience in Birmingham, Alabama. The audience were all white but during the speech a black man started to shout out remarks directed at Trump. some of the crowd turned on the man, knocked him to the ground and a woman came over and kicked him before the police arrived and dragged him away. Trump was heard to yell "get him out of here' Trump has also turned nasty to one or two others who have directed remarks to him that he didn't like. The man doesn't even know about the First Amendment obviously

I wouldn't go as far as to say he's as bad as Hitler was but his rantings against minorities and the expulsion of eleven million illegals seem to have parallels to Hitler and the Jews. Not all illegals are criminals and most of them work in jobs that Americans wouldn't do. Dealing with illegals needs to be done on a case by case basis not tearing whole families apart where there are kids born here to parents who did come illegally. The man has no compassion and he doesn't represent what America is really all about

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Old Dec 30th 2015, 8:56 am
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Interesting that you should draw parallels with the situation in Germany before Hitler came to power..(altho you do say you don't think he is as bad as Hitler) I'm sure Hitler came across as quite a benign leader in the early days. Germany was in a deep depression,jobs lost,none to replace them. They needed someone to blame,who better that a group of people who didn't depend on them for jobs,seemed to be doing very well. didn't integrate..The situation is similar now..Everyone screaming about immigrants,refugees,asylum seekers in the one breath, and someone with extreme views stepping up to the plate to fan the flames. it won't take much to get Trump elected.Just extremism from one corner and apathy from the other
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Old Dec 30th 2015, 12:40 pm
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It's extreme circumstances that bring extreme people to power. If the current shower in power were more moderate in their approach, Trumps words would resonate with no-one.
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Old Dec 30th 2015, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
It's extreme circumstances that bring extreme people to power. If the current shower in power were more moderate in their approach, Trumps words would resonate with no-one.
I don't see any particularly extreme circumstances in the U.S. - other than mass shootings which, ironically, do not phase the Republicans.
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Old Dec 30th 2015, 4:05 pm
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I don't see any particularly extreme circumstances in the U.S. - other than mass shootings which, ironically, do not phase the Republicans.
... but mass shootings aren't extreme - they are the norm.
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Old Dec 30th 2015, 5:20 pm
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... but mass shootings aren't extreme - they are the norm.
The may have become so commonplace that they appear to be normal, but, in fact they are an extreme circumstance which politicians could apply their energies toward.
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Old Dec 31st 2015, 4:36 am
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These articles (not about Trump) covers many issues which explain why so many Americans are angry with the "system" and are looking for an outsider for an answer

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If only the founding fathers could have seen the future, and placed requirements in the constitution to be completely redone every X years, say maybe every 100 years to better reflect reality.

The amendment process is too difficult to do often enough, we really need a completely new constitution written to reflect the century we are in.
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Old Jan 3rd 2016, 2:02 am
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If only the founding fathers could have seen the future, and placed requirements in the constitution to be completely redone every X years, say maybe every 100 years to better reflect reality.

The amendment process is too difficult to do often enough, we really need a completely new constitution written to reflect the century we are in.
The Constitution is still very sound. The Supreme Court interpret it in matters of law and the President defends it. It is still one of if not the best guarantors of individual rights and freedoms to this day and is probably the envy of many other countries around the world. It took many years and many problems to overcome before it came into being.

I wouldn't like the idea of successive governments dickering around with it to suit their own agendas. Okay I suppose if you trust politicians without reservations of any kind
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An interesting report on the life of one of Donald Trump's brothers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us...=top-news&_r=0
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Old Jan 4th 2016, 6:41 pm
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If Trump ever becomes President I see him either being impeached or carried out of the White House on his way to the funny farm foaming at the mouth before his first term is up
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Old Jan 18th 2016, 4:33 pm
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Apparently, the British parliamentary debate about banning Trump from Britain is happening now, or soon. Supposedly scheduled at 16:30 GMT. This debate is a result of the online petition getting enough signatories...

MPs to debate call to ban Donald Trump from UK - BBC News
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Old Jan 18th 2016, 7:12 pm
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Apparently, the British parliamentary debate about banning Trump from Britain is happening now, or soon. Supposedly scheduled at 16:30 GMT. This debate is a result of the online petition getting enough signatories...

MPs to debate call to ban Donald Trump from UK - BBC News
As implied on the other thread, it's more procedural and symbolic than anything else. I have heard that Tulip Siddiq get over-offended about it before, but I think it is largely posturing. The Donald should know all about that.
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