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Old Oct 19th 2020, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Elgin1983 View Post
Yes, it does. Biden has not challenged the legitimacy of the laptop and the emails, and he (or rather his handlers) have just announced he will do no public functions until Thursday. Two days in hiding two weeks before a presidential election! WTF?

You seem to think the fact Giuliani waited till October to release the material somehow renders it invalid. If so, you are clearly an idiot. There have been October surprises for decades in American politics, and this is maybe the greatest of them all.

Ditto not releasing all the information to pro-Biden fake news outlets. They want to keep dripping the information out between now and the election, keeping the Biden crime family's corruption in the news. Smart political practice.

I just love the fact that this goofy dipshit may be the man to save America. In 100 years there may be statues of Hunter Biden (holding his laptop of course).
​​​​​​ I see you missed the bit about impeachment, and the fact no other news outlet will accept the 'facts' Guiliani conveniently released just before the election.


It's a sad attempt at Hilary's email scandal once again.

I don't think the general population of the USA will fall for such a pathetic hatchet job again...


A statue of Biden holding a laptop would be preferable to an orange man grabbing somebody else's p***y.
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Originally Posted by Elgin1983 View Post
"Tolerant" according to leftists means putting up with people defecating and sodomising each other in the streets, while violently assaulting people advocating a different political outlook.
Cool. Can you point me in the right direction please?

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Old Oct 19th 2020, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Elgin1983 View Post
Biden has just been caught red-handed operating a crime family via his druggie dropout son Hunter (who was so stupid he dropped off a laptop full of incriminating evidence for repair and forgot to pick it up): raking in millions in bribes from China, Ukraine and elsewhere in exchange for selling out America's manufacturing and withholding aid to get prosecutors investigating his son's company fired.......and you daft communists are whinging about Trump, who has been investigated more than anyone in history by fake news media and deep state democrats (not to mention treacherous RINOs) these past 4 years without a single wrongdoing to show for it.

He got the economy booming before covid; destroyed ISIS; stymied Iran; brought peace to Kosovo and the Middle East; and all without starting a new war (the first president not to start one since Carter). And still the brainwashed leftists screech.

Truly Clownworld.
Do you have links to support these allegations, or are you shitposting for laughs?

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The thing is they might have pandered to the far left on a very mild scale in the past but in the present day they have shown themselves to be doing more than just pandering. They have been supporting and in many cases egging along the activities of Antifa and BLM. They and their supporters have embraced identify politics, cancel culture to an intensity to a degree that has never been seen before, they presided over the off-shoring of manufacturing and employment to the increasingly belligerent China, they are in favour of mass immigration, they favour defunding the police - all of these things to an intensity that is rather more than just pandering to the hard left. They have become a political force that is detrimental to the future of the USA. The Democratic Party today has distanced itself from being seen as a moderate centre left party liberal - they taken a sharp turn to the far left - both in appearances and behaviours.

And Biden is a joke of a candidate. It was general knowledge about his role in the Ukraine scandal, he's long been seen as creepy, he is tainted by racism, and there are serious concerns that he is not at his best - and truth be known he never achieved anything good when he was at his best, anyway. What was the party thinking when they selected him ...And Harris? Why choose them? Surely they the party has more steady and trustworthy candidates than those two?
The Biden stuff has already been repeatedly debunked. Has solitary got to you again?

Originally Posted by Elgin1983 View Post
"Tolerant" according to leftists means putting up with people defecating and sodomising each other in the streets, while violently assaulting people advocating a different political outlook.
Sources please? Or is this more BS...

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Old Oct 19th 2020, 9:30 pm
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Old Oct 19th 2020, 9:58 pm
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Fifth highest death rate of European nations. Between 10 and 20 times as many deaths as their near neighbours while only having double the population.
You think that's good?
At least you're consistent in your nonsense.
While disagreeing with the vast majority of what Elgin is saying, I think it's worthwhile looking at the 'Sweden' topic. I've been studying Sweden in some detail recently. Sweden made some BIG mistakes early on with regards to Long Term Care facilities and the elderly, and for that, they paid a heavy price in terms of deaths. However, if you look at Sweden over the past several months, it really is way lower in terms of per-capita deaths than many other European countries, and closely aligned with its neighbors (Denmark, Finland, Norway). Look at this chart of per-captica deaths over the past 3 months:



Exactly why Sweden is now behaving quite similarly to its neighbors (last 3 months at least) is a fascinating discussion and beyond the scope of this thread. From what I'm reading, the issue is, Swedes are basically logical and reasonable people and follow guidance, so don't need to be "told' what to do (in the form of mandates, etc); totally the opposite of (eg) Americans and to a lesser extent, southern Europeans, Brits, etc.
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While disagreeing with the vast majority of what Elgin is saying, I think it's worthwhile looking at the 'Sweden' topic. I've been studying Sweden in some detail recently. Sweden made some BIG mistakes early on with regards to Long Term Care facilities and the elderly, and for that, they paid a heavy price in terms of deaths.
This is the issue though. It was well known that Sweden adopted a "just carry on" policy at the beginning and those believing Covid was a hoax and all the other non-believers held them up as an example regardless of how badly it went.

If they are doing well now but are still among the worst overall then that can only be because they did so badly at the beginning. Imagine if they had 'fallen into line' at the outset.
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Old Oct 19th 2020, 11:47 pm
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Fixed it for you.
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Old Oct 19th 2020, 11:51 pm
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Do you have links to support these allegations, or are you shitposting for laughs?



The Biden stuff has already been repeatedly debunked. Has solitary got to you again?



Sources please? Or is this more BS...



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Old Oct 19th 2020, 11:59 pm
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This is the issue though. It was well known that Sweden adopted a "just carry on" policy at the beginning and those believing Covid was a hoax and all the other non-believers held them up as an example regardless of how badly it went.

If they are doing well now but are still among the worst overall then that can only be because they did so badly at the beginning. Imagine if they had 'fallen into line' at the outset.
The elderly care home issue is separate from lockdown. Case in point: New York. The moronic, corrupt thug Andrew Cuomo (who is, unbelievably, actually the more intelligent brother) imposed the most brutal lockdown in America.....and simultaneously forced infected residents back in care homes, with devastating effects.

Sweden could and should have looked after its elderly better at the beginning of this, as they are the vulnerable population. But that aside, they have a very low death rate (And even with the terrible early mistake, they are still doing better overall the UK, Spain, Italy, Belgium and France).

The real costs of the lockdown are more difficult to quantify, but the cost in mental health, self-harm, suicide, domestic abuse and drug abuse is huge. It will continue too, when the bailout money runs out, and people realise that their jobs, businesses and livelihoods are not coming back.

Very informative article here on the collapse in care given by the NHS (as it was transformed into the NCS) with resultant loss of life. No doubt one or two communist tossers will whinge that it is the Mail, but if they pull their thumbs out of their mouths/arses and read it they will begin to grasp a small part of the terrible toll this foolish lockdown has wrought, is wreaking and will continue to wreak.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...laid-bare.html
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This is the issue though. It was well known that Sweden adopted a "just carry on" policy at the beginning and those believing Covid was a hoax and all the other non-believers held them up as an example regardless of how badly it went.

If they are doing well now but are still among the worst overall then that can only be because they did so badly at the beginning. Imagine if they had 'fallen into line' at the outset.
It's really, really sad and unfortunate that there are a bunch of 'deniers' / 'hoaxers' who have latched onto Sweden as a 'model', because it has made discussions such as this almost impossible to have. Any attempt to really learn from Sweden is hindered by the fact that any reference to Sweden that is not critical is taken as support for the stupidity that is Trump.

Sweden decided not to impose lockdowns, but did 'recommend' distancing, hygiene, etc, and by all accounts, people in Sweden followed this guidance.

Regarding your last paragraph/sentence ... that makes no sense at all. In the past 3 months, they are doing 'no better, no worse' than their neighbors despite having substantially different policies. There is no argument with the fact that they had some serious issues in the beginning, specifically relating to the elderly / LTCs, and that accounted for a huge number of deaths. But they corrected for that mistake, and that issue is now 'in the past' and has nothing to do with what is going on today. Mistakes made in the early days should not be relevant today, in terms of evaluating their ongoing progress. Let's assume they had avoided those LTC issues in the early days, and avoided those early deaths; what difference would that have on today's assessment, other than with some perverse notion of measuring performance based on absolute body count?


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Originally Posted by Phathamster View Post
​​​​​​ I see you missed the bit about impeachment, and the fact no other news outlet will accept the 'facts' Guiliani conveniently released just before the election.
Did you eat a lot of lead paint as a kid?

The Biden campaign has not refuted any of the emails. They have just announced (on Tuesday morning) that Biden will not be doing any appearances until Thursday. Who takes 2 days off two weeks out from an election? Why doesn't he just come out and say "Nope, the whole thing is fake?" Why is he hiding?

Furthermore, Hunter the moron (this clown makes Chris Cuomo look like an intellectual) got his lawyer to call the repair shop guy demanding the laptop back. The same guy who will probably soon be found tragically to have committed suicide (the Clinton M.O).

Finally, the Director of National Intelligence today came out and said the material is genuine and has no links to any foreign entities.

But hey, I'm sure "Phathamster" knows better than all of them. Hamsters are renowned for their razor sharp intelligence and shrewd cunning; particularly phat ones.
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Do you have links to support these allegations, or are you shitposting for laughs?



The Biden stuff has already been repeatedly debunked.
Link: nypost.com. Knock yourself out. No, really.

And you leftists don't seem to realise that saying "it's debunked" does not mean something is debunked. Tough one for you to get your head around, I know. Don't give yourself an aneurysm on my behalf. Second thoughts..
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Mistakes made in the early days should not be relevant today, in terms of evaluating their ongoing progress. Let's assume they had avoided those LTC issues in the early days, and avoided those early deaths; what difference would that have on today's assessment, other than with some perverse notion of measuring performance based on absolute body count?
None. But overall body count is the bottom line isn't it?
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Exactly why Sweden is now behaving quite similarly to its neighbors (last 3 months at least) is a fascinating discussion and beyond the scope of this thread. From what I'm reading, the issue is, Swedes are basically logical and reasonable people and follow guidance, so don't need to be "told' what to do (in the form of mandates, etc); totally the opposite of (eg) Americans and to a lesser extent, southern Europeans, Brits, etc.
Sweden’s policies are currently similar to those of its neighbours. Their policies only differed significantly in the first few months when they saw 10 to 20 times the level of deaths as did Norway and Finland.
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Originally Posted by Elgin1983 View Post
And you leftists don't seem to realise that saying "it's debunked" does not mean something is debunked. Tough one for you to get your head around, I know. Don't give yourself an aneurysm on my behalf. Second thoughts..
There does appear to be a debunkamania going around at the moment and leftists appear to be particularly vulnerable to it. It's classic cry wolf /scream racist stuff. I reckon a week or so more of that and claims of "it's been debunked" will be greeted with: "oh yeah, really?"
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