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scrubbedexpat099 Oct 19th 2020 2:28 am

re: President Biden
 
We have BLM/Antifa beating up blacks, interestingly most activists seem not to be black.

We have women being beaten up on the Women's March.

What could be wrong?


Giantaxe Oct 19th 2020 3:23 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12923416)
We have BLM/Antifa beating up blacks, interestingly most activists seem not to be black.

We have women being beaten up on the Women's March.

What could be wrong?

https://youtu.be/PVi3c-ds-os

Theres nothing on this video related to Biden.

BritInParis Oct 19th 2020 3:35 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12923409)
No, not particularly directed at you. It was a serious question. Paulry and Boiler say the same on here, as do Trump's campaign people. I've lived here for many, many years and there has been a big fat zero in terms of "hard left" anywhere even vaguely close to power and influence.

I find it hard to believe that the DSA have made such significant advances, but I'm prepared to be convinced. The Democratic machine and its backers are both wide and deep. I don't here of them being concerned though. I hear certain republicans and random Trumpers telling us we should be concerned, which isn't the same thing at all.

https://www.dsausa.org/

I did meet Howard Zinn once. He was a lovely old fella. There is a proud history of socialism invthe US.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/161058

Bernie Sanders was nobbled in 2016 by the DNC as they didn't want him to star in the US remake of Corbyn's Labour Party. James Carville didn't exactly mince his words as to why during this year’s Primaries. (2:09-2:33)


However this backfired amongst the understandably cheesed-off young progressives leading to a surge in DSA membership, the rise of The Squad - both AOC and Tlaib are DSA members - and increased representation at all levels year on year. The trend of the average Democrat voter moving further to the left over the last 25 years has been matched by the views of their representatives and this process has only accelerated since 2016. We obviously still got the ultimate establishment candidate this election in the form of Biden but everything possible is being done to keep the DSA and its fellow travellers in the big D-tent - the co-opting and subsequent watering down of the Green New Deal, support for BLM and refusing to condemn Antifa. Even Pelosi went from sniffily dismissing AOC's victory in 2018 as "not to be viewed as something that stands for anything else" to wearing kente cloth whilst taking the knee in Congress less than two years later.

scrubbedexpat091 Oct 19th 2020 4:02 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12923412)
So Trump said he would repeal and replace the ACA. 4 years later, he's done absolutely nothing and is now playing the game of issuing executive orders that do nothing. He keeps saying he'll protect people with pre-existing conditions but has no plan whatsoever to actually do this. He said he was going to take care of infrastructure; I thought that might be one of the few bright spots of his presidency, but ... nada. Build the wall and make Mexico pay ... right. These weren't things the left 'resisted' - he simply failed to create any policy. The one thing he has done is reduce taxes, which I think was a bad move.

How many years now has it been where Republican's have been harping about ACA and have done nothing to improve it? 10 years now?


dave_j Oct 19th 2020 4:05 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12923411)
Seriously? I mean, seriously? He's a spoiled brat who cares only for himself and his name.

I suspect that in reality, appearing to be a paranoid spoiled brat is merely a symptom of a metal disorder. His inability to concentrate, assess difficult arguments, differentiate between right and wrong and believing himself to be a genius points to some serious mental deficiency that would almost certainly have condemned him to penury and/or prison had he not been gifted a huge pile of cash and had he not defrauded relatives of more.
Deep down he knows and fully understands this which is why he surrounds himself with sychophants. He fell foul and disposed of Rex Tillerson who quickly assessed the measure of the man as being a 'F***ing moron'.
What I find amazing, although I shouldn't really, is the number of toadies out there who're prepared to work for the man, sing his praises and generally do his bidding when they must know what he is.




Giantaxe Oct 19th 2020 4:45 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12923425)
How many years now has it been where Republican's have been harping about ACA and have done nothing to improve it? 10 years now?

Yes, 10 years. Plenty of repeal attempts - including next month's Supreme Court case - and zero efforts at the promised replace part.

scrubbedexpat096 Oct 19th 2020 6:27 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12923412)
So Trump said he would repeal and replace the ACA. 4 years later, he's done absolutely nothing and is now playing the game of issuing executive orders that do nothing. He keeps saying he'll protect people with pre-existing conditions but has no plan whatsoever to actually do this. He said he was going to take care of infrastructure; I thought that might be one of the few bright spots of his presidency, but ... nada. Build the wall and make Mexico pay ... right. These weren't things the left 'resisted' - he simply failed to create any policy. The one thing he has done is reduce taxes, which I think was a bad move.


Reduce taxes feeds the economy for a quick growth fix but long term is not a viable policy.

scrubbedexpat096 Oct 19th 2020 6:28 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12923416)
We have BLM/Antifa beating up blacks, interestingly most activists seem not to be black.

We have women being beaten up on the Women's March.

What could be wrong?

https://youtu.be/PVi3c-ds-os


There sure was a lot of people pointing cameras, almost if they were waiting for something to happen...

Lion in Winter Oct 19th 2020 11:56 am

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12923420)
There's nothing on this video related to Biden.

Also, I love the way some people take symptoms of the disease, in this case the fallout stimulated by four years of Trump and Trumpism, and use it to try and say that Trump and Trumpism are justified because "look what happens".

This tactic has been a big part of the propaganda effort, so I suppose it's not surprising that some are on board with it.

Shard Oct 19th 2020 1:14 pm

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12923397)
Where is this "hard left" people are going on about? Seriously, who are they?

Even Sanders would have bern on the left of Blair's Labour, but on the right of Corbyn's. Who else?

Why do we have to accept the terms of the discussion foisted upon us that the Democrats, want, or will pander to, the "hard left". Even if there were one, the Democrats, like the Republicans, are various shades of capitalist who run the US as a business to favour a few. The Dems are just a bit more likely to throw the rest of us a few bones, not start a race war or directly encourage action by armed militias. But far left? Laughable.

Hard left is being used to refer to the academics and activists pushing for radical change. They are behind the "woke" "cancel culture" phenomena, and every bit as zealous / fascist in their views as those on the hard right. That woman who wrote White Fragility would be an example.

​​​​​​Although, extreme political camps do exist, I don't think either US political party is at risk of becoming extreme itself (despite the efforts of Fox News to imply it). It wouldn't be an election winning strategy to shift too far left or right, given the duality of political opinion in the population.

TexanScot Oct 19th 2020 1:16 pm

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12923426)
What I find amazing, although I shouldn't really, is the number of toadies out there who're prepared to work for the man, sing his praises and generally do his bidding when they must know what he is.

I'm consistently amazed and appalled at the sheer number of Evangelical Christians that hang on every word uttered by a multiple divorcee who paid off a porn star, locked kids in cages and tear gassed protestors outside a church.

BristolUK Oct 19th 2020 1:35 pm

re: President Biden
 
So now we know the trouble with Biden is "he listens to the science"

Yep. Trump really said that.

Shard Oct 19th 2020 2:45 pm

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12923570)
So now we know the trouble with Biden is "he listens to the science"

Yep. Trump really said that.

Micheal Gove would approve.

Lion in Winter Oct 19th 2020 2:45 pm

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by TexanScot (Post 12923553)
I'm consistently amazed and appalled at the sheer number of Evangelical Christians that hang on every word uttered by a multiple divorcee who paid off a porn star, locked kids in cages and tear gassed protestors outside a church.


Those would be the ones with no masks and their hands held up in witness at yesterday's Nevada rally, no doubt.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...cddd03d489.jpg

Lion in Winter Oct 19th 2020 2:56 pm

re: President Biden
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12923570)
So now we know the trouble with Biden is "he listens to the science"

Yep. Trump really said that.

Here's that bit:

"But Biden wants to launch a socialist takeover of healthcare to cut our military budget. And he wants to cut it right to the bone. Well, the Democrats do not like our military. Traditionally, we have built a greatest military. Anytime that we’ve ever had, anywhere in the world. If you vote for Biden, he will surrender you jobs to China. He will surrender your future to the virus. He’s going to lockdown. This guy wants to lockdown. He’ll listen to the scientists. If I listened totally to the scientists, we would write down, have a country that would be in a massive depression"

But have you tried reading the whole thing? :blink: It's all over the place, a rambling mess of lies and semi-formed sentences. It's more than a bit mad.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...ipt-october-18




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