President Biden
Oct 18th 2020, 11:38 pm
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by paulry
...I'm sure this election is going to be a close one.
Originally Posted by paulry
Awesome developments. If things carry on like this Trump could be headed for a landslide win.
Oct 19th 2020, 12:03 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by paulry
To some extent I agree. Biden's political record is almost irrelevant because he is just an easily manipulable front for a very toxic, destructive and proven-to-never-work, and very intolerant ideology that seeks to dissolve the nation state and destroy the USA. But then Biden as the front has some very questionable credentials if he is now pretending to be friendly to black voter interests - which are now being peddled in order to secure the black vote. The overwhelming majority of Democratic party supporters believe they "are doing the right thing" and supporting the "good side" but unfortunately they are what are known as "useful idiots". On the bright side, and as we shall see, very many have been red pilled and have walked away, joining the silent majority who will vote for Trump.
Trump on the other hand while publically appearing to be an argumentative buffoon, he is authentic, and has the interests of all Americans in his heart. He is a strong leader and does not yield to opponents such as China and Iran, he demands that everyone pull their weight to support world peace, and his is not a warmonger. And he believes in preserving the USA, the nation state, it's constitution, it's traditions and it's values.
Trump on the other hand while publically appearing to be an argumentative buffoon, he is authentic, and has the interests of all Americans in his heart. He is a strong leader and does not yield to opponents such as China and Iran, he demands that everyone pull their weight to support world peace, and his is not a warmonger. And he believes in preserving the USA, the nation state, it's constitution, it's traditions and it's values.
Oct 19th 2020, 1:12 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by Shard
This is a very simplistic, almost paranoid take on the Democrats. They were in power just 4 years ago, and there's zero evidence of trying to destroy the USA. Admittedly, Democrats are more closely aligned with some of the far Left, but not all Democrats, and in any case the system would withstand such pressures. Too much Tucker Carlson methinks.
What they call the far left in the US is basically Canada
Only threat I see in the US is coming from the right.
Oct 19th 2020, 1:18 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by Shard
This is a very simplistic, almost paranoid take on the Democrats. They were in power just 4 years ago, and there's zero evidence of trying to destroy the USA. Admittedly, Democrats are more closely aligned with some of the far Left, but not all Democrats, and in any case the system would withstand such pressures. Too much Tucker Carlson methinks.
Oct 19th 2020, 1:57 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
What they call the far left in the US is basically Canada
Only threat I see in the US is coming from the right.
Only threat I see in the US is coming from the right.
Oct 19th 2020, 2:04 am
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re: President Biden
Where is this "hard left" people are going on about? Seriously, who are they?
Even Sanders would have bern on the left of Blair's Labour, but on the right of Corbyn's. Who else?
Why do we have to accept the terms of the discussion foisted upon us that the Democrats, want, or will pander to, the "hard left". Even if there were one, the Democrats, like the Republicans, are various shades of capitalist who run the US as a business to favour a few. The Dems are just a bit more likely to throw the rest of us a few bones, not start a race war or directly encourage action by armed militias. But far left? Laughable.
Even Sanders would have bern on the left of Blair's Labour, but on the right of Corbyn's. Who else?
Why do we have to accept the terms of the discussion foisted upon us that the Democrats, want, or will pander to, the "hard left". Even if there were one, the Democrats, like the Republicans, are various shades of capitalist who run the US as a business to favour a few. The Dems are just a bit more likely to throw the rest of us a few bones, not start a race war or directly encourage action by armed militias. But far left? Laughable.
Oct 19th 2020, 2:06 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
What they call the far left in the US is basically Canada .....
.....Quite surprising, or not, that there are very few left of centre politics - let alone far left.
Oct 19th 2020, 2:33 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Where is this "hard left" people are going on about? Seriously, who are they?
Even Sanders would have bern on the left of Blair's Labour, but on the right of Corbyn's. Who else?
Why do we have to accept the terms of the discussion foisted upon us that the Democrats, want, or will pander to, the "hard left". Even if there were one, the Democrats, like the Republicans, are various shades of capitalist who run the US as a business to favour a few. The Dems are just a bit more likely to throw the rest of us a few bones, not start a race war or directly encourage action by armed militias. But far left? Laughable.
Even Sanders would have bern on the left of Blair's Labour, but on the right of Corbyn's. Who else?
Why do we have to accept the terms of the discussion foisted upon us that the Democrats, want, or will pander to, the "hard left". Even if there were one, the Democrats, like the Republicans, are various shades of capitalist who run the US as a business to favour a few. The Dems are just a bit more likely to throw the rest of us a few bones, not start a race war or directly encourage action by armed militias. But far left? Laughable.
Oct 19th 2020, 3:10 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by BritInParis
Presumably this was directed at me? The short answer is that the Democratic establishment is terrified of a Momentum style takeover by the Democratic Socialists of America.
I find it hard to believe that the DSA have made such significant advances, but I'm prepared to be convinced. The Democratic machine and its backers are both wide and deep. I don't hear of them being concerned though. I hear certain republicans and random Trumpers telling us we should be concerned, which isn't the same thing at all.
https://www.dsausa.org/
I did meet Howard Zinn once. He was a lovely old fella. There is a proud history of democratic socialism in the US.
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/161058
Last edited by Lion in Winter; Oct 19th 2020 at 3:36 am.
Oct 19th 2020, 3:16 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by paulry
...
Trump ... has the interests of all Americans in his heart. ...
Trump ... has the interests of all Americans in his heart. ...
Oct 19th 2020, 3:20 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by paulry
True. But then people have seen what has gone on these last 4 years with the lefts antics to resist Trump every step of the way. But even so, I'm sure this election is going to be a close one.
Oct 19th 2020, 3:23 am
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re: President Biden
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
I've seen US politics referred to over the years as the Democrats being centre-right and the Republicans a little bit further to the right than the Democrats.... Is there any true left-wing mainstream political party in the US?
