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Post EU Referendum...Part II

Old Aug 19th 2018, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Was Gina Miller an MP etc?
And what about Ollie Robbins? Who elected him to shape Brexit?
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Old Aug 19th 2018, 8:47 am
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I see more millionaires are joining the billionaire Soros on the anti-democracy stage.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...te-brexit-deal
Wow, it's incredible that people such as this feel bold enough to plough huge sums of money into trying to overturn the peoples democratic decision.
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Old Aug 19th 2018, 9:16 am
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Wow, it's incredible that people such as this feel bold enough to plough huge sums of money into trying to overturn the peoples democratic decision.
But you support Farage and his millionaire backers . pot and kettle.
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
Wow, it's incredible that people such as this feel bold enough to plough huge sums of money into trying to overturn the peoples democratic decision.
Well, it was an incredibly foolish politically motivated act of self-harm, conceived by people who were clueless about the EU and Britain's membership and how it's substantially elevated the UK's global politico-economic status since it joined. And also forgot about the key exceptions to membership the UK had been (foolishly?) granted.

But hey, (aside from getting rid of pesky foreigners) "freeing" England of all that is what about a third of the population voted for, right?

So, welcome to reality. Enjoy your stay...

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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
And what about Ollie Robbins? Who elected him to shape Brexit?
Confirming that We are leaving, That is Brexut.
Whu are brexiters so frightened of the future , its What they, not you , voted for..
Remind us, what was on the ballot paper..
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Old Aug 19th 2018, 10:04 am
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Eric. Your image in post 93 isn't showing.

Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Well, it was an incredibly foolish politically motivated act of self-harm, conceived by people who were clueless about the EU and Britain's membership and how it's substantially elevated the UK's global politico-economic status since it joined. And also forgot about the key exceptions to membership the UK had been (foolishly?) granted.

But hey, (aside from getting rid of pesky foreigners) "freeing" England of all that is what about a third of the population voted for, right?

So, welcome to reality. Enjoy your stay...
I think those that conceived the referendum, and those who led each side in the votes knew exactly how beneficial the EU is to the UK. The leaders of the Leave groups saw an opportunity to further their own interests and agendas. Farage built his party on the idea of leaving the EU, and Cameron's decision to appease the Tory hardliners (who didn't feel the EU's response to Cameron's requests for more exceptions to EU rules) was a perfect opportunity for Farage and those like him to influence public opinion in their direction.

The UK would have had the 6-month rotating leadership of the EU from Jan 2018 (and been part of the 3-nation top table for the 6-month periods either side of that) had things stayed the same, but the Leave ended that. Any influence we could have used to make improvements was lost. Every EU law in the UK had been approved by a British PM as part of the EU Council of Ministers, and voted on by British MEPs (the ones that turned up to vote, anyway) in the EU Parliament.
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Old Aug 19th 2018, 10:18 am
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Eric. Your image in post 93 isn't showing.
It's funny - it showed up in preview but got garbled as soon as posted and then didn't display edit etc icons, so I couldn't get back in to do anything about it. I've already notified the mods but thanks for the heads up, anyway.
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It's funny - it showed up in preview but got garbled as soon as posted and then didn't display edit etc icons, so I couldn't get back in to do anything about it. I've already notified the mods but thanks for the heads up, anyway.
I blame the EU. Good job we're leaving, right?
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The government have increased the numbers of places available for doctors, but we are also talking about nurses and a range of other practitioners.

Yes, not everyone is driven by money, but it is a hygiene factor for most people.

Probably the 50% or so who don't go on to study A levels.
A decent income is now a " hygiene factor for carbon units ".
Wha world do you live in ?.
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It's funny - it showed up in preview but got garbled as soon as posted and then didn't display edit etc icons, so I couldn't get back in to do anything about it. I've already notified the mods but thanks for the heads up, anyway.
I had that a few days ago but managed to delete the whole thing.
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I had that a few days ago but managed to delete the whole thing.
If I remember correctly, you have to be able to edit the post in order to get to the delete function but none of those edit / quote buttons were available on that post.

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I blame the EU. Good job we're leaving, right?
Tend to agree - it can't be the length of the thread, which was what was alleged to have been causing the problems on the other one and caused it to be closed so it must be the subject matter. Sooner we're out the better.
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Old Aug 19th 2018, 11:13 am
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Just because a 2005 American journal uses the same language you do, it doesn't make you right.
Type in host, donor and migrant into Google - you'll find plenty of other users of these normal words.

You misunderstand the NHS budget. Every year, it has to do more with budget increases of less than inflation, effectively having less money than the previous year. Increasing the pay to attract new hires is going to reduce the budget for other departments, unless the NHS starts being privatised and able to charge patients for services. It's not a coffee outlet who can raise prices to offset it's additional payroll costs.
Are you sure that the NHS budget has risen by less than inflation? I don't think that is the case and that real budgets have continued to increase.

The reality is that if there is a shortfall of medical staff and the NHS cannot attract more people from the UK into the trade, the government of the day will have to increase the budget of the NHS when it comes to salaries to attract more staff. Alternatively we can take people from developing countries instead and continue to suppress wages.

Another thing Brexit won't fix....
I agree, rather than address the root cause, the government of the day will create routes for more migration from EU and non-EU sources into the NHS..
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Untrue

the majority of voters did not vote to leave. The minority are undertaking a hostile reverse take over
The majority of the voting electorate voted to leave.
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Ah - so big business, landlords and the elites who like cheap compliant labour and high rents are of the left and the masses who voted for Brexit to control the reserve pool of labour and mass migration are of the right?.
There are many champagne socialists on the left who are landlords and big business types, but the reality is that the left like mass migration because they are virtue-signallers for the "poor and oppressed" and act as useful idiots for the majority of landlords and big business who are of the right. Those who voted brexit are the working class, of both the left and right.
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