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Old Apr 16th 2019, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
I think Billy Bragg coined that one, but it opened up a can of worms, not all Muslims are terrorists, not all ***** are spurs fans etc.
Good point. It was very funny watching though. The rage and upset and demands for apologies were hilarious.

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our only hope is there's enough Branston to go round. The status quo needs to be turned upside down and spanked .
Life will be far simpler without the EU anyway. People won't have anyone else to blame but themselves and the MP they voted for. Maybe it will be good for UK politics or maybe it will just mean the fun stays with them rather than being passed up?
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 11:53 am
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Corbyn would first have to decide on the direction of any charge .😂😂
I thought it was the Labour Party members who set policy.
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
I thought it was the Labour Party members who set policy.
Yes, policy is decided at the Labour Party conference.
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
Yes, policy is decided at the Labour Party conference.
Policy which was for a second referendum !
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For someone in northern PT he seems so incredibly worried and fretful over the fate of the B****** Tories, which implies so much.
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 12:41 pm
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Yes, indeed. Doubtful any of the leavers here would read it, but they certainly should. Eloquently illustrates the simple reality of it all without any of the tribal politics.

Even business "expert" blueboy should appreciate it. ( although I'd bet he'd will find something wrong with it.. Perhaps the writer's brother's wife's 2nd cousin works for the guardian or something).

Still, the fact remains, what part are you willing to sacrifice? Because you're going to have to give up one of them. And it's >your< problem to solve.
Yes, it's rubbish.

Makes base assumptions with no support
Remainers have repeatedly explained the costs of Brexit, and the price Britain will pay in jobs, investment, cuts, debts, tax increases, security, the NHS, or any combination of those things.
Jobs have gone up, investment is only down due to the indecision and how long the WA is taking, there is no negative impacts on cuts, NHS, security etc.

(Although one year won’t do it: if we need to train to replace the 10,000 EU doctors and 60,000 EU engineers and computer scientists that we rely on every day, we need to start training 11 year old British kids right now. We don’t even have the teachers or schools to do that; by the time they’re qualified, we’ll be able to leave the EU with minimal cost and disruption; so we should plan to leave the EU in 15 years, not 15 months).
Seems to assume we are going to kick out EU citizens and have zero immigration - ridiculous assumptions.

I had several chumps like this person working for me - project managers, like to talk the talk, can't walk the walk. They have no vision or ambition.

If only warrior leavers were allowed to leave, we would already have certainty and the EU would understand who had the whip hand. As it is we have have worrier remainers capitulating to the EU, dragging out the process in their attempts to avoid it.
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1 View Post
I think Billy Bragg coined that one, but it opened up a can of worms, not all Muslims are terrorists, not all ***** are spurs fans etc.
Yes, it's the usual hate and bigotry of the petulant remainiacs, it's amazing so many feel comfortable restating it.
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 12:58 pm
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Yes, it's rubbish.

Makes base assumptions with no support

Jobs have gone up, investment is only down due to the indecision and how long the WA is taking, there is no negative impacts on cuts, NHS, security etc.

Seems to assume we are going to kick out EU citizens and have zero immigration - ridiculous assumptions.

I had several chumps like this person working for me - project managers, like to talk the talk, can't walk the walk. They have no vision or ambition.

If only warrior leavers were allowed to leave, we would already have certainty and the EU would understand who had the whip hand. As it is we have have worrier remainers capitulating to the EU, dragging out the process in their attempts to avoid it.
Yes employment is up because bodies are cheaper than the investment decisions on new more efficient plant and equipment which are delayed because of Brexit...
When we finally leave you will be among those complaining , that Brexit is not the Brexit you wanted even though you voted remain, or claim to .
At least you now accept that significantly reducing immigration is a " ridiculous assumption ".

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Yes, it's the usual hate and bigotry of the petulant remainiacs, it's amazing so many feel comfortable restating it.
That's a bit confused. The bloke probably wasn't wrong in what he said, even if it was not that pleasant or can be replicated into other shocking statements.
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Reading people might have voted leave ''just because I wanted'' or ''they felt like it'' proves that leavers did NOT think it through and do NOT have a clue what they voted for !
Sum's it up nicely
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 2:25 pm
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Yes, policy is decided at the Labour Party conference.
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Policy which was for a second referendum !
That is a gross over-simplification :
A Labour spokesman said: “As unanimously agreed at Labour party conference, if Theresa May’s botched Brexit deal is voted down in parliament then a general election should be called. In line with the policy agreed at conference, if the Conservatives block a general election then we will keep all options on the table, including the option of campaigning for a public vote.”
Most Labour members believe Corbyn should back second Brexit vote
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Yes employment is up because bodies are cheaper than the investment decisions on new more efficient plant and equipment which are delayed because of Brexit...
When we finally leave you will be among those complaining , that Brexit is not the Brexit you wanted even though you voted remain, or claim to .
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We agree on something - the question is whether it is chicken or egg.

At least you now accept that significantly reducing immigration is a " ridiculous assumption "
That's not what I said - I said: "Seems to assume we are going to kick out EU citizens and have zero immigration" - neither of which will nor should happen.
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 3:30 pm
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We agree on something - the question is whether it is chicken or egg.


That's not what I said - I said: "Seems to assume we are going to kick out EU citizens and have zero immigration" - neither of which will nor should happen.
Your post , go back and read it, "ridiculous assumption".
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For someone in northern PT he seems so incredibly worried and fretful over the fate of the B****** Tories, which implies so much.
Who? ME??
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Old Apr 16th 2019, 6:31 pm
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Your post , go back and read it, "ridiculous assumption".
Try and play with a straight bat EMR.
I said:
Seems to assume we are going to kick out EU citizens and have zero immigration - ridiculous assumptions.
You then stated:
At least you now accept that significantly reducing immigration is a " ridiculous assumption ".
Clearly I did not say "significantly reducing immigration", I said "going to kick out EU citizens and have zero immigration" - these are very different things.
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