Post EU Referendum...Part II
Aug 29th 2018, 1:20 pm
#781
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Will there be an additional £2B cost due to the early purchase of medicines - yes or no?
These are the sorts of "facts" on the remainiac hymn sheet.
These are the sorts of "facts" on the remainiac hymn sheet.
which would presumably then be run down over future months
Because if the stocks aren't run down over future months but rather deemed to be necessary in the reintroduced frictionful trade arrangements, it's not a temporary cost
Aug 29th 2018, 1:23 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Will there be an additional £2B cost due to the early purchase of medicines - yes or no?
These are the sorts of "facts" on the remainiac hymn sheet.
These are the sorts of "facts" on the remainiac hymn sheet.
Dismiss one, dismiss them all..
Aug 29th 2018, 1:44 pm
#783
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Assanah
80s come to my mind as well. He seems to still buy into the rational homo economicus. That's is an outdated picture of humans. Even science now recognises that we are not rational and that emotions are in fact very important to our decision making. And sympathy with others and deep and meaningful connections with others is much more important to mental health and happiness than lots of money
Aug 29th 2018, 2:08 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Makes me think of that guy in Futurama who froze himself in the 80s because he had boneitis.
Aug 29th 2018, 2:10 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Red Eric
Well that depends a bit on whether the logic-free Remainiac Guardian got this bit, which you previously quoted, right
It is a presumption, after all. Are you happy in general to back The G up on its presumptions?
Because if the stocks aren't run down over future months but rather deemed to be necessary in the reintroduced frictionful trade arrangements, it's not a temporary cost
It is a presumption, after all. Are you happy in general to back The G up on its presumptions?
Because if the stocks aren't run down over future months but rather deemed to be necessary in the reintroduced frictionful trade arrangements, it's not a temporary cost
The Guardian's title and main text is all project fear, they tuck the little bit about "presuming a run-down" away so they can pretend to show balance - it's the Fox News of the remainiac fringe and using the same sort of tactics.
It's the sort of disingenuous "£2 Billion"! number that brexiters used on the side of a bus during the referendum, yet some of us can see it and those who are remainiacs are somehow blind to this number, just like their extreme brexiters were before them, totally biased to the point of idiocy.
Aug 29th 2018, 2:13 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
You think that frictionful trade will entail EU-sourced medicines sitting for 6 weeks at the docks? Forever onwards? (and noting that this still would not be a "cost" but a cashflow issue - i.e. the medicines did not get £2B more expensive due to this).
The Guardian's title and main text is all project fear, they tuck the little bit about "presuming a run-down" away so they can pretend to show balance - it's the Fox News of the remainiac fringe and using the same sort of tactics.
It's the sort of disingenuous "£2 Billion"! number that brexiters used on the side of a bus during the referendum, yet some of us can see it and those who are remainiacs are somehow blind to this number, just like their extreme brexiters were before them, totally biased to the point of idiocy.
The Guardian's title and main text is all project fear, they tuck the little bit about "presuming a run-down" away so they can pretend to show balance - it's the Fox News of the remainiac fringe and using the same sort of tactics.
It's the sort of disingenuous "£2 Billion"! number that brexiters used on the side of a bus during the referendum, yet some of us can see it and those who are remainiacs are somehow blind to this number, just like their extreme brexiters were before them, totally biased to the point of idiocy.
Do you condemn them as well ?.
Aug 29th 2018, 2:16 pm
#787
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by EMR
Not the remain camp but the Guardian no different from the Torygraph spreading fear among pensioners .
Dismiss one, dismiss them all..
Dismiss one, dismiss them all..
Aug 29th 2018, 2:19 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by EMR
The most influential UK papers during the Brexit campaign and since are those that focussed on " project fear " regarding immigration.
Do you condemn them as well ?.
Do you condemn them as well ?.
If it's "Muslim European ate my hamster" then obviously, if it's an article on the huge net immigration impacting housing and wages, then possibly no - it's perfectly possible to have normal sensible discourse over the negatives of high net immigration.
You seem to have avoided condemning this blatant £2B mistruth - I'm sure that's an oversight.
Aug 29th 2018, 2:26 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Assanah
At least we sandwich making carbon units have time to watch Futurama. i like that show. Shame they stopped it.
Aug 29th 2018, 2:28 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Yes, depending upon what they are saying.
If it's "Muslim European ate my hamster" then obviously, if it's an article on the huge net immigration impacting housing and wages, then possibly no - it's perfectly possible to have normal sensible discourse over the negatives of high net immigration.
You seem to have avoided condemning this blatant £2B mistruth - I'm sure that's an oversight.
If it's "Muslim European ate my hamster" then obviously, if it's an article on the huge net immigration impacting housing and wages, then possibly no - it's perfectly possible to have normal sensible discourse over the negatives of high net immigration.
You seem to have avoided condemning this blatant £2B mistruth - I'm sure that's an oversight.
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The cost of the drugs may well be 2billion , true or false,.
You seem unable to differentiate between opinion and rhetoric. .
Aug 29th 2018, 2:59 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
The article shows the calculation, they have taken 6 weeks of total medicine expenditure and said that that is an extra cost.
It isn't an extra cost, it is an earlier cost which will be subsequently recouped. It is deliberately conflated with being an extra cost as part of the fake news agenda of the remainiac fringe.
The small form factor and high cost of medicines means that extra storage costs will be minimal - as I pointed-out there is surplus storage capacity in the users home, the pharmacy/hospital and at the distribution center - this is not £2B of spuds that would take up huge volumes of space.
It isn't an extra cost, it is an earlier cost which will be subsequently recouped. It is deliberately conflated with being an extra cost as part of the fake news agenda of the remainiac fringe.
The small form factor and high cost of medicines means that extra storage costs will be minimal - as I pointed-out there is surplus storage capacity in the users home, the pharmacy/hospital and at the distribution center - this is not £2B of spuds that would take up huge volumes of space.
Yes, the £2B is an earlier cost, but it still has to be budgeted now instead of down the line. Does your company have a spare £2B laying around?
Aug 29th 2018, 3:56 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
I said Billion, not inches.
It was only your post that I saw it was 2B. Or not 2B.
Aug 29th 2018, 4:33 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
My medicine cabinet doesn't have room for additional space. And it would have to pass through the distribution centres.
Yes, the £2B is an earlier cost, but it still has to be budgeted now instead of down the line. Does your company have a spare £2B laying around?
Yes, the £2B is an earlier cost, but it still has to be budgeted now instead of down the line. Does your company have a spare £2B laying around?
