Post EU Referendum...Part II
Jun 12th 2020, 1:52 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by dave_j
This Brexit has been hard fought. Those who would deny the UK of a referendum result have dug in and delayed the inevitable at great cost to everyone but themselves.
The UK should have used the time to equip and man it's border customs system but in the vain hope that EU would realise that it takes two to tango it has resisted the temptation to walk away.
Only now, when the EU has realised that it's firmly glued to those negotiating tramlines, is the UK starting to beef up it's border controls. However, the loss of many years preparation can't be recovered overnight and the pragmatic approcah will be to establish these quickly but only as they're capable.
Those Audis and Mercedes, well they'll not be exempt but the odd french onion might be... for now at least because it suits.
Time will tell who's been less wrong because nobody gets it right all the time.
The UK should have used the time to equip and man it's border customs system but in the vain hope that EU would realise that it takes two to tango it has resisted the temptation to walk away.
Only now, when the EU has realised that it's firmly glued to those negotiating tramlines, is the UK starting to beef up it's border controls. However, the loss of many years preparation can't be recovered overnight and the pragmatic approcah will be to establish these quickly but only as they're capable.
Those Audis and Mercedes, well they'll not be exempt but the odd french onion might be... for now at least because it suits.
Time will tell who's been less wrong because nobody gets it right all the time.
Is it all your own work or did you use the Brexiteers' Coles Notes?
Jun 12th 2020, 2:17 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Nissan has already said that it will close the huge Sunderland plant if there's a no-deal Brexit. Sunderland is also a covid hotspot.
So much for the Mackems.
So much for the Mackems.
Jun 12th 2020, 2:37 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Red Eric
Bravo! A masterful reinterpretation.
Is it all your own work or did you use the Brexiteers' Coles Notes?
Is it all your own work or did you use the Brexiteers' Coles Notes?
Jun 12th 2020, 2:52 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Nissan has already said that it will close the huge Sunderland plant if there's a no-deal Brexit. Sunderland is also a covid hotspot.
So much for the Mackems.
So much for the Mackems.
Sunderland loses again, courtesy of "the People's Government".
"The 6,000 workers of the Sunderland plant breathed a sigh of relief on Thursday May 28 when Nissan CEO and president Makoto Uchida announced plans to maintain the site, and also improve efficiency.Last week’s announcement came as the firm unveiled huge annual losses and plans to close its Barcelona plant, which will result in around 2,800 job losses.However, after saying Sunderland remains an important part of the firm’s plans for the European business, Nissan’s global chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta has warned the company would not be able to stand by its commitment to the Sunderland plant if the UK left the European Union without a trade deal that enabled tariff-free EU access."
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...ns-no-18355659
Jun 12th 2020, 7:36 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
UK 'formally confirms' to EU that it won't extend transition period
"On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
On border checks, the Cabinet Office said a "flexible and pragmatic approach" would now see them introduced in three stages.
Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust"
By July we should have border controls in place. So what is the big news deal? Or have I missed something? Tell me.
Great news.
"On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
On border checks, the Cabinet Office said a "flexible and pragmatic approach" would now see them introduced in three stages.
Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust"
By July we should have border controls in place. So what is the big news deal? Or have I missed something? Tell me.
Great news.
Jun 12th 2020, 7:49 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by la mancha
UK 'formally confirms' to EU that it won't extend transition period
"On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
On border checks, the Cabinet Office said a "flexible and pragmatic approach" would now see them introduced in three stages.
Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust"
By July we should have border controls in place. So what is the big news deal? Or have I missed something? Tell me.
Great news.
"On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
On border checks, the Cabinet Office said a "flexible and pragmatic approach" would now see them introduced in three stages.
Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust"
By July we should have border controls in place. So what is the big news deal? Or have I missed something? Tell me.
Great news.
Do you have a link to your quote?
Last edited by DaveLovesDee; Jun 12th 2020 at 7:51 pm.
Jun 12th 2020, 7:52 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by la mancha
UK 'formally confirms' to EU that it won't extend transition period
"On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
On border checks, the Cabinet Office said a "flexible and pragmatic approach" would now see them introduced in three stages.
Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust"
By July we should have border controls in place. So what is the big news deal? Or have I missed something? Tell me.
Great news.
"On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
On border checks, the Cabinet Office said a "flexible and pragmatic approach" would now see them introduced in three stages.
Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust"
By July we should have border controls in place. So what is the big news deal? Or have I missed something? Tell me.
Great news.
from what is the UK being "liberated" from, exactly?
Jun 12th 2020, 7:55 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by amideislas
"Take back control and regain our political & economic independence."
from what is the UK being "liberated" from, exactly?
from what is the UK being "liberated" from, exactly?
Jun 12th 2020, 7:56 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
July 2020, or 2021?
Do you have a link to your quote?
Do you have a link to your quote?
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-nic...102400476.html
Jun 12th 2020, 8:30 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by la mancha
Sorry about that, I missed it out. It is 2021. Has to be after the transition period.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-nic...102400476.html
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-nic...102400476.html
But instead, the RoI is going to be subject to a Customs Union with NI, and an unenforced Customs border in the Irish Sea for 6 months until the relevant Customs posts are ready.
Outstanding.... What a great way to legally evade tariffs and duty between NI and mainland UK for half a year with little risk...
Jun 12th 2020, 8:32 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
Which wouldn't preclude a 6-month WA extension to 30th June, would it?
But instead, the RoI is going to be subject to a Customs Union with NI, and an unenforced Customs border in the Irish Sea for 6 months until the relevant Customs posts are ready.
Outstanding.... What a great way to legally evade tariffs and duty between NI and mainland UK for half a year with little risk...
But instead, the RoI is going to be subject to a Customs Union with NI, and an unenforced Customs border in the Irish Sea for 6 months until the relevant Customs posts are ready.
Outstanding.... What a great way to legally evade tariffs and duty between NI and mainland UK for half a year with little risk...
Jun 12th 2020, 8:38 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by la mancha
Who cares? it's not the end of the world. Six months...pfff...
I guess there'll be a free-for-all at Customs ports then....
Jun 12th 2020, 8:46 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Well, it puts NI a step closer to reunification. Even the DUP, who vehemently opposed getting "thrown under the bus" (so to speak) is now warming up to the idea of continuing to be in the single market.
I expect when England forces Britain to jump off the cliff, NI will be the first to go, and Scotland will be next. Wales has a lot of English expats that vote, so the Welsh may never get the chance to regain control.
I expect when England forces Britain to jump off the cliff, NI will be the first to go, and Scotland will be next. Wales has a lot of English expats that vote, so the Welsh may never get the chance to regain control.
Jun 12th 2020, 8:51 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum...Part II
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
No worries then.... Other than WTO rules that no tariffs must be applied to all countries if applied to one.
I guess there'll be a free-for-all at Customs ports then....
I guess there'll be a free-for-all at Customs ports then....
