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Fredbargate Jan 22nd 2017 11:06 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12158112)
What do we produce that the Germans would want to buy.
This is 2017 not 1967.

That is an excellent reason for leaving the Single Market and looking elsewhere.

Thanks for your support EMR you are at last looking to the future, well done :thumbsup:

amideislas Jan 22nd 2017 11:13 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
Fair enough. So what's taking so long?

DaveLovesDee Jan 22nd 2017 11:28 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12158104)
In 2014 the UK received goods to the value of $100bn from Germany whilst exports to Germany were $46.5bn

So we imported 53.5bn more than we exported to Germany, so twice as much as we imported. Thanks for accepting we're an import economy in regard to Germany.

How much will customs duties affect this if we leave the EU customs union?

EMR Jan 22nd 2017 11:46 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12158159)
That is an excellent reason for leaving the Single Market and looking elsewhere.

Thanks for your support EMR you are at last looking to the future, well done :thumbsup:

In what universe do you think that since 1945 British salesman have NOT already been trying to sell what we produce whereever they can.You really do live in the past and have little udea of the real UK economy..
Wake up and join the rest of us in the 21st century.

Fredbargate Jan 22nd 2017 12:56 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12158174)
In what universe do you think that since 1945 British salesman have NOT already been trying to sell what we produce whereever they can.You really do live in the past and have little udea of the real UK economy..
Wake up and join the rest of us in the 21st century.

Tied into a club who's members in your words do not want what we produce and who's permission we need to trade elsewhere.
No wonder the UK is in so much debt with with self declared business like you considering this is the best future for the UK.

21st century BC more likely.

Former Lancastrian Jan 22nd 2017 12:59 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12158170)
So we imported 53.5bn more than we exported to Germany, so twice as much as we imported. Thanks for accepting we're an import economy in regard to Germany.

How much will customs duties affect this if we leave the EU customs union?

I don't think anybody really knows the answer to that as it hasn't reached that stage yet although Im sure some BE poster will quote something which may or may not be true.

EMR Jan 22nd 2017 2:17 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12158213)
Tied into a club who's members in your words do not want what we produce and who's permission we need to trade elsewhere.
No wonder the UK is in so much debt with with self declared business like you considering this is the best future for the UK.

21st century BC more likely.

The EU does not stop UK sakesmen selling anywhere theyvwant to.
You just have something the customer wants.
The US is not in the EU is it but just look at our sales.

If if listed by customer base from the the late 70,s onward including those who helped build UK airports , projects in the Gulf. doubt that no more than 25 % would still be in business.

amideislas Jan 22nd 2017 2:26 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12158213)
Tied into a club who's members in your words do not want what we produce and who's permission we need to trade elsewhere.
No wonder the UK is in so much debt with with self declared business like you considering this is the best future for the UK.

21st century BC more likely.

Don't *want*? I don't know... It seems Europeans buy a handful of stuff produced in Britain. It's quite a bit of stuff, about 44% of what the UK produces. Only about 8% of what Europeans consume, however.

It appears that it's not a matter of whether they *want* it, but whether they *need* it. Europeans already produce everything that the UK produces, so if British products vanished from European shelves, or if they became more expensive, most Europeans wouldn't feel it at all. Might miss that HP sauce though. It's subjective. Who knows.

The reverse, however, is a very different kettle of fish. If European products (which Britain has become reliant upon) suddenly vanished or became prohibitively expensive, then Britain would definitely feel it. And that explains why European exports to the UK aren't likely to suffer much. And Britain is unlikely to impose trade barriers on those goods, unless waving the union jack is more important to British consumers than being able to afford basic stuff.

Garbatellamike Jan 22nd 2017 3:23 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12158213)
Tied into a club who's members in your words do not want what we produce and who's permission we need to trade elsewhere.
No wonder the UK is in so much debt with with self declared business like you considering this is the best future for the UK.

21st century BC more likely.

In fairness to EMR he did tell us his business model was based on a fixed rate between £ and Euro (the Pre-Brexit 1.46 rate he called it) so he may not actually be the best judge............

DaveLovesDee Jan 22nd 2017 4:13 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12158213)
Tied into a club who's members in your words do not want what we produce and who's permission we need to trade elsewhere.
No wonder the UK is in so much debt with with self declared business like you considering this is the best future for the UK.

21st century BC more likely.

UK companies don't need permission from the EU to make deals.

The UK government can't make their own free trade deals with other countries while a member of the EU.

la mancha Jan 22nd 2017 4:25 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12157779)

When the pound dropped, it made any money sent back to Eastern Europe much better value.

Can you run that by me again?

la mancha Jan 22nd 2017 4:27 pm

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You people just do not stop, do you? Listen, no deal is better than a bad deal for Britain. In plain English, if we go down the rest of the EU follows. The City is the financial lungs of Europe. If that is tampered with the whole of Europe goes into an unstoppable downward spiral.

WTF are you talking about here: oranges, BMWs, and potatoes? Tariffs? 44%? 8%?

Project Fear is over!!! You tried it once and failed miserably. The new world beckons. Yesterday is over.

amideislas Jan 22nd 2017 6:02 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
Pretending you don't understand very basic realities won't change it to what you'd like to believe.

jimenato Jan 22nd 2017 6:18 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12158325)
You people just do not stop, do you? Listen, no deal is better than a bad deal for Britain. In plain English, if we go down the rest of the EU follows. The City is the financial lungs of Europe. If that is tampered with the whole of Europe goes into an unstoppable downward spiral.

WTF are you talking about here: oranges, BMWs, and potatoes? Tariffs? 44%? 8%?

Project Fear is over!!! You tried it once and failed miserably. The new world beckons. Yesterday is over.

This person is angry!!:eek:

DaveLovesDee Jan 22nd 2017 6:25 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12158422)
This person is angry!!:eek:

A lot of Leavers were expecting Article 50 to be triggered the day after the referendum vote.

Even as a Remain voter, I thought it was a possibility after a Leave vote.


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