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Red Eric Jan 4th 2017 2:33 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Eyes down!

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12142340)
... a bonfire of EU red-tape post Brexit

Number 83 - eight and three. The bonfire of red tape.

Lion in Winter Jan 4th 2017 2:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12142253)
Regardless of how you voted it would be daft to have someone with a negative attitude to brexit at the front end of the negotiations.
Brexit is going to happen so now lets negotiate for the good of the UK.

International trade and political negotiations are not the same as cheerleading. It isn't a football fan match where the group that wins is the one that can drown out the others, despite what this thread might lead you to believe.

"Negotiating for the good of the UK" requires knowledge, experience, skill, and the respect of the other countries/negotiators in the room. Why would you assume that someone who thought Brexit was a bad idea because it presents risk to our country would then proceed to negotiate in a way that would do most damage to our country? That makes no sense at all.

Red Eric Jan 4th 2017 2:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12142279)
...hard working farmers...

Number 9. Hard working farmers.

Red Eric Jan 4th 2017 2:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12142340)
...mountains of paperwork.

Sixteen - one and six. Mountains of paperwork.

SultanOfSwing Jan 4th 2017 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12142430)
Eyes down!


Number 83 - eight and three. The bonfire of red tape.


Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12142432)
Number 9. Hard working farmers.


Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12142434)
Sixteen - one and six. Mountains of paperwork.

Someone's playing buzzword bingo ... :lol:

Red Eric Jan 4th 2017 2:41 pm

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12142435)
Someone's playing buzzword bingo ... :lol:

I think he's got about 15 cards on the go at the same time :cool:

SultanOfSwing Jan 4th 2017 2:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12142437)
I think he's got about 15 cards on the go at the same time :cool:

Can he count that high?

Lion in Winter Jan 4th 2017 3:53 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12142438)
Can he count that high?

No need to. It goes 1, 2, 3, swarm, mass uncontrolled.

SultanOfSwing Jan 4th 2017 3:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12142474)
No need to. It goes 1, 2, 3, swarm, mass uncontrolled.

It's like that Amazon tribe Karl always went on about on the Ricky Gervais show. They only need numbers up to 3 (apparently).

Lion in Winter Jan 4th 2017 5:24 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
What??

I thought British workers were being kept from the front of the queue for British jobs by all those foreigners, and that Brexit would change all that?

Migrant farm workers may stay after Brexit but red tape goes - BBC News

Bipat Jan 4th 2017 5:44 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12142534)
What??

I thought British workers were being kept from the front of the queue for British jobs by all those foreigners, and that Brexit would change all that?

Migrant farm workers may stay after Brexit but red tape goes - BBC News

These are seasonal workers--fruit picking etc. There have always been seasonal farm workers coming to the UK for that purpose long before the EU or the EEC. Just as people from the UK used to go grape picking in France (when they still did it by hand!)

The aim is to cut the form-filling/EU rules etc. Let farmers make their own decisions about how they manage their land.

DaveLovesDee Jan 4th 2017 6:17 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12142543)
These are seasonal workers--fruit picking etc. There have always been seasonal farm workers coming to the UK for that purpose long before the EU or the EEC. Just as people from the UK used to go grape picking in France (when they still did it by hand!)

The aim is to cut the form-filling/EU rules etc. Let farmers make their own decisions about how they manage their land.

One of my family members runs a smallholding.

He says the paperwork is minimal, and ensures that his farm is competitive with similarly-sized farms, all under the same rules.

Much of the paperwork would still be required by DEFRA anyway, without the EU.

Red Eric Jan 4th 2017 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12142543)
The aim is to cut the form-filling/EU rules etc.

So no visa applications to be required for seasonal farm workers, then?


Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12142543)
Let farmers make their own decisions about how they manage their land.

I think they always could. It was just that they needed to fulfil certain obligations in order to be eligible for EU subsidies.

Wouldn't want anyone fraudelently claiming a subsidy, now would we? ;)

Lion in Winter Jan 4th 2017 6:25 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12142543)
These are seasonal workers--fruit picking etc. There have always been seasonal farm workers coming to the UK for that purpose long before the EU or the EEC. Just as people from the UK used to go grape picking in France (when they still did it by hand!)

.

Exactly. This has always been the case even while under the dreaded EU's heel. Which means that the EU was never an obstacle to this and it also apparently means that these migrant workers were not pushing in on the "queue" ahead of British-born workers as so many pro-Leave people kept complaining about.

DaveLovesDee Jan 4th 2017 6:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12142543)
These are seasonal workers--fruit picking etc. There have always been seasonal farm workers coming to the UK for that purpose long before the EU or the EEC. Just as people from the UK used to go grape picking in France (when they still did it by hand!) .

Grape-picking jobs in France

Brits and other EU nationals wouldn't need a work visa.


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