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Red Eric Dec 16th 2016 4:45 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12130693)
From the Guardian.

"Launching his bid to be re-elected as general secretary of the UK’s largest union, McCluskey said “workers have always done best when the labour supply is controlled and communities are stable”.
He added: “While we must reject any form of racism, and help refugees fleeing war, we must also listen to the concerns of working people.
“That’s why I have called for new safeguards to stop companies cutting costs by slashing workers’ wages and transforming a race-to-the-bottom culture into a rate-for-the-job society.”

Restricting free movement isn't a right-wing attitude, it's just common sense."


Left and Right and Common Sense Unite ? :cool:

This bit fell off during the copy and paste DD :

This article was amended on 16 December 2016. An earlier version stated that McCluskey had called for Unite to push for an end to the free movement of labour. While he talked of the need for a controlled supply of labour, he has since said that extending trade union organisation and collective bargaining protections are the best way to address concerns about the impact of free movement.
:thumbup: :shades_smile:

Red Eric Dec 16th 2016 4:54 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12130596)
I thought the PC brigade was an emergency service that the alt-right call out to fix their computer after they have filled it with viruses from watching too much cuckold porn.

Talking of which, I wonder what happened to paulry.

Lion in Winter Dec 16th 2016 5:07 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12130706)
Talking of which, I wonder what happened to paulry.


Spontaneous combustion I should think.

That, or the immigrants finally got him.

TGA Dec 16th 2016 6:05 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12130560)
Someone needs to put the little shit in his place.

Let me know when you see him

SultanOfSwing Dec 16th 2016 6:21 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12130706)
Talking of which, I wonder what happened to paulry.

Don't know.


Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12130757)
Let me know when you see him

There you are.

max930 Dec 16th 2016 7:11 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
I'm a little selfish that the only area a Canadian faces discrimination in Britain is somewhat via the immigration system. But once inside the UK, I have the same rights as a British citizen without having to become British. Its why all the wealthiest Canadians have a huge presence in UK overseas territories. I.e.: UK tax havens.

Unless you have a green card in the USA, even a Canadian has very little asset protection in the USA. In the UK, as a Canadian I have the same asset protections as a British citizens and I can even vote and hold office as a Canadian. I.e.: the current head of the Bank of England is a Canadian.

I like Trump, just his Americans and America first in business, redoing NAFTA. Could be bad business wise for a Canadian in the USA. Id rather have a NAFTA type deal with Britain and the EU. And base my business out of the UK VS being overly invested in the USA without asset protections as a foreigner.

Eisenhower became America first in the 1950's and totally put Canadians and the British out of American immigration wise and business wise in the USA. The Americans basically used Canadians for the jet engine, etc. Once they had things figured out they killed the Canadian aircraft industry. I.e.: Avro and even Bombardier. Its also why Canada doesn't have an auto manufacturing industry outside of American manufactures.

Anyway, I like America and Americans. Just they'll screw even Canadians and Canada if its in their best interest. Eisenhower and a lot of rules and regulations via his administration. Is basically why the British had too nationalize a lot of their industries in the 1960's and 1970's. If Concorde was made before 1954, Canada would have been a partner. As sort of revenge its why Air Canada and the Canadian Air Force bought mostly Air Bus planes in the 1980's and 1990's. Boeing stole their commercial jets from Britain in the 1950s via Canadian company's and then the US government froze us out.

Again nothing personnel. In Britain as a Canadian I can vote in all elections. In the USA I can't even vote in city council elections. Its why businessmen like Elon Musk become American/Canadian business people. Up until 1991 you couldn't be an American and Canadian citizen. Dual citizenship was illegal.

Anyway, as far as being a "foreigner" I prefer my treatment as a Canadian much more in Britain VS the USA.

DaveLovesDee Dec 16th 2016 7:27 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by max930 (Post 12130802)
Anyway, as far as being a "foreigner" I prefer my treatment as a Canadian much more in Britain VS the USA.

My Canadian wife only dislikes one thing about Brits.

Spoiler:
She keeps getting asked what part of America she's from

Dick Dasterdly Dec 16th 2016 10:44 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12130698)
This bit fell off during the copy and paste DD :

:thumbup: :shades_smile:

So No dispute about what he originally said.

Obviously both McClusky and the Guardian have embarrassed themselves so much they're desperately trying too late in the day to put a diffent slant on it now.

Sorry but the horse has bolted. :cool:

morpeth Dec 17th 2016 5:40 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by max930 (Post 12130802)
I'm a little selfish that the only area a Canadian faces discrimination in Britain is somewhat via the immigration system. But once inside the UK, I have the same rights as a British citizen without having to become British. Its why all the wealthiest Canadians have a huge presence in UK overseas territories. I.e.: UK tax havens.

Unless you have a green card in the USA, even a Canadian has very little asset protection in the USA. In the UK, as a Canadian I have the same asset protections as a British citizens and I can even vote and hold office as a Canadian. I.e.: the current head of the Bank of England is a Canadian.

I like Trump, just his Americans and America first in business, redoing NAFTA. Could be bad business wise for a Canadian in the USA. Id rather have a NAFTA type deal with Britain and the EU. And base my business out of the UK VS being overly invested in the USA without asset protections as a foreigner.

Eisenhower became America first in the 1950's and totally put Canadians and the British out of American immigration wise and business wise in the USA. The Americans basically used Canadians for the jet engine, etc. Once they had things figured out they killed the Canadian aircraft industry. I.e.: Avro and even Bombardier. Its also why Canada doesn't have an auto manufacturing industry outside of American manufactures.

Anyway, I like America and Americans. Just they'll screw even Canadians and Canada if its in their best interest. Eisenhower and a lot of rules and regulations via his administration. Is basically why the British had too nationalize a lot of their industries in the 1960's and 1970's. If Concorde was made before 1954, Canada would have been a partner. As sort of revenge its why Air Canada and the Canadian Air Force bought mostly Air Bus planes in the 1980's and 1990's. Boeing stole their commercial jets from Britain in the 1950s via Canadian company's and then the US government froze us out.

Again nothing personnel. In Britain as a Canadian I can vote in all elections. In the USA I can't even vote in city council elections. Its why businessmen like Elon Musk become American/Canadian business people. Up until 1991 you couldn't be an American and Canadian citizen. Dual citizenship was illegal.

Anyway, as far as being a "foreigner" I prefer my treatment as a Canadian much more in Britain VS the USA.

I know some sensitive industrial sectors America controls whether foreigners can purchase and does have export controls of on some products for "national security" purchases, but what additional asset protection would one have as a green card holder ?

Red Eric Dec 17th 2016 6:32 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12130954)
So No dispute about what he originally said.

Obviously both McClusky and the Guardian have embarrassed themselves so much they're desperately trying too late in the day to put a diffent slant on it now.

Sorry but the horse has bolted. :cool:

I should think it came of either taking part of the speech out of context or writing up the article before the speech was finished. Either way, it was clearly thought that the article did not accurately reflect the tone of the entirety of what was said. As is only right and proper under those circumstances, the newspaper issued an amendment to the article. Any decent newspaper would do the same.

Happens quite frequently, actually - all part of the haste to rush everything out to the online version, I guess. Good thing there are always some hawks about to point out the errors :shades_smile:

Novocastrian Dec 17th 2016 7:14 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by max930 (Post 12130802)
Again nothing personnel. In Britain as a Canadian I can vote in all elections.
Anyway, as far as being a "foreigner" I prefer my treatment as a Canadian much more in Britain VS the USA.

Err, no you can't.

mikelincs Dec 17th 2016 9:29 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12130706)
Talking of which, I wonder what happened to paulry.

not seen since 20th November and doesn't appear on the list of members.

DaveLovesDee Dec 17th 2016 12:14 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12131154)
Err, no you can't.

My wife's Canadian, and can vote in UK and local elections, as well as Welsh Assembly elections.

She also voted in the EU referendum.

Red Eric Dec 17th 2016 12:43 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12131194)
not seen since 20th November and doesn't appear on the list of members.

Perhaps he's rubbed himself off?

Fredbargate Dec 17th 2016 1:55 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12130810)
My Canadian wife only dislikes one thing about Brits.

Spoiler:
She keeps getting asked what part of America she's from

Simple answer

The intelligent part


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