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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 12119635)
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ney-chancellor
"As we leave the EU, the UK can turn its back on the austerity policies that have been the hallmark of the euro area. My main argument against staying in the EU has been the poor economic record of the EU as a whole, and the eurozone in particular. The performance has got worse the more the EU has developed joint policies and central controls." He has been saying the same thing for decades. You do realise Dick it is the Guardian, that paper you have dismissed as only read by " lefty loons ". |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 12119635)
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ney-chancellor
"As we leave the EU, the UK can turn its back on the austerity policies that have been the hallmark of the euro area. My main argument against staying in the EU has been the poor economic record of the EU as a whole, and the eurozone in particular. The performance has got worse the more the EU has developed joint policies and central controls." |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 12119635)
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ney-chancellor
"As we leave the EU, the UK can turn its back on the austerity policies that have been the hallmark of the euro area. My main argument against staying in the EU has been the poor economic record of the EU as a whole, and the eurozone in particular. The performance has got worse the more the EU has developed joint policies and central controls." home › opinion > columnists Autumn statement 2016 Opinion There is a plan: Brexit means good riddance to austerity John Redwood Here's another by a different contributor, Austerity is the cause of our economic woes. It’s nothing to do with the EU |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by lutonlad
(Post 12119350)
Un PC.
Seasons Greetings means Seasons Greetings. I don't care if you say 'Christmas' or 'holidays' or whatever, if you're wishing me a happy one, then all is well. FWIW, even as an atheist I stick with Christmas because the way I see it that's basically a secular event these days anyway. And I love Christmas - sue me. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12119779)
Oh, let's not start this bullshit again. It isn't the cultural event of choice that's the important part, it's that someone is wishing you a 'happy' or a 'merry' one of them.
I don't care if you say 'Christmas' or 'holidays' or whatever, if you're wishing me a happy one, then all is well. FWIW, even as an atheist I stick with Christmas because the way I see it that's basically a secular event these days anyway. And I love Christmas - sue me. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 12119788)
Have a Happy whatever-you-celebrate.
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12119779)
Oh, let's not start this bullshit again. It isn't the cultural event of choice that's the important part, it's that someone is wishing you a 'happy' or a 'merry' one of them.
I don't care if you say 'Christmas' or 'holidays' or whatever, if you're wishing me a happy one, then all is well. FWIW, even as an atheist I stick with Christmas because the way I see it that's basically a secular event these days anyway. And I love Christmas - sue me. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12119779)
Oh, let's not start this bullshit again. It isn't the cultural event of choice that's the important part, it's that someone is wishing you a 'happy' or a 'merry' one of them.
I don't care if you say 'Christmas' or 'holidays' or whatever, if you're wishing me a happy one, then all is well. FWIW, even as an atheist I stick with Christmas because the way I see it that's basically a secular event these days anyway. And I love Christmas - sue me. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by lutonlad
(Post 12119792)
Fair point. I wont sue.
But yeah, focus on the well-wishing and worry less about what the celebration is. Secularism is best for everyone :nod:
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 12119794)
Christmas - it wasn't Jesus' birthday anyway, I think that turns out to have been sometime in what is now October. Christmas is, in origin, pagan and about fertility, as most things were. Bringing evergreens into the house was a way to ensure that spring arrived after winter, ie the "rebirth". It just got appropriated by Christians. Not to mention the entirely disreputable custom of wassailing that involved all sorts of goings on. It's a great festival all round really.
Yeah, it's a mish-mash of a bunch of different ancient celebrations and you know what - I still love putting up the tree and exchanging presents and letting my daughter believe in Santa for what is probably the second to last year she will (:(), so I don't care what we call it, as long as I still get to enjoy it. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 12119643)
Two things, we haven't yet left the EU and we are NOT in the Eurozone in any case.
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12119779)
Oh, let's not start this bullshit again. It isn't the cultural event of choice that's the important part, it's that someone is wishing you a 'happy' or a 'merry' one of them.
I don't care if you say 'Christmas' or 'holidays' or whatever, if you're wishing me a happy one, then all is well. FWIW, even as an atheist I stick with Christmas because the way I see it that's basically a secular event these days anyway. And I love Christmas - sue me. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by TGA
(Post 12120271)
yawn
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12120278)
Thank you for your input ...
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by TGA
(Post 12120282)
YW
Secularism is all-inclusive, after all. |
re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12120286)
Let me tempt fate here and see if you're capable of giving a straight answer to a simple question, let's pretend I've got five pounds riding on it just for shits and grins, but what was the reason for your reaction to my post? It was essentially saying being PC about Christmas is bollocks. You've said before you're not religious, so presumably you approach it the same way I do. Wouldn't you agree that the important part to take away from any 'seasonal greeting' is the words 'happy' and 'merry', and not whatever festival or celebration is being referenced?
Secularism is all-inclusive, after all. If I was to be face to face with you and you started rattling on about "season greetings" i might have to tell you to go away and stop bothering me. After you'd served me that is... |
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