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EMR Nov 26th 2016 11:28 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12115339)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ommons-website

To that lot you can add a number of notorious failed politicians and a number of BE members.

Who is proposing a re run.
The only ones discussing it are Brexiters who have decided that the UK Parliamentary system, a venue for debate and detailed discussion will reveal just how ill prepared the UK is for Brexit .

DaveLovesDee Nov 27th 2016 1:05 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12115339)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ommons-website

To that lot you can add a number of notorious failed politicians and a number of BE members.

That petition was debated in Parliament on 5th Sept 2016, after getting 4,150,259 signatures. It ruled that,


The European Union Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015, receiving overwhelming support from Parliament. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.
So case closed.

TGA Nov 27th 2016 5:53 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
no wonder the coward cut n run.

Scamp Nov 27th 2016 5:58 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12115450)

He'd lost the referendum and disagreed with the result.

Would you rather he or someone else lead the UK into Brexit negotiations?

TGA Nov 27th 2016 6:01 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12115453)
He'd lost the referendum and disagreed with the result.
Would you rather he or someone else lead the UK into Brexit negotiations?

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads...30-379887.jpeg

Scamp Nov 27th 2016 6:09 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12115456)

Classic TGA.

TGA Nov 27th 2016 6:09 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12115461)
Classic TGA.

thankyou

Scamp Nov 27th 2016 6:25 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12115463)
thankyou

Unreal.

Fredbargate Nov 27th 2016 7:09 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12115278)
Who is proposing a re run, are you so unsure of the brexit case that you think it will collapse when subjected to parliamentary scrutiny?


Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12115335)
Who suggested a re-run?

Do either of you read the posts on this thread????

Within the last 24 hours


Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12115069)
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I think that ones everything is on the table a new referendum or election is in order. That wouldn't be undemocratic or unfair or disrespectful. It would give people the opportunity to really decide based on facts not emotions.


jimenato Nov 27th 2016 7:42 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
TBH Fred I think the idea of a re-run was pitched very soon after the referendum but has since been dropped.

Sure - some people can make a reasonable argument for holding one but we all know it's not going to happen.

Other things will happen like ensuring that the law is complied with and May can't simply interpret the result as she sees fit but anyone seriously campaigning for another referendum is barking up the wrong tree.

The problem is that Brexiteers see any move to moderate the transition to Brexit as a threat. This includes the actions of Scotland to give themselves a say and the legal challenge to ensure that parliamentary democracy prevails.

Of course a referendum could be held on another matter - say on the conditions of Brexit, or even a general election could be held. But that's a different matter.

GeniB Nov 27th 2016 7:49 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12115501)
TBH Fred I think the idea of a re-run was pitched very soon after the referendum but has since been dropped.

Sure - some people can make a reasonable argument for holding one but we all know it's not going to happen.

Other things will happen like ensuring that the law is complied with and May can't simply interpret the result as she sees fit but anyone seriously campaigning for another referendum is barking up the wrong tree.

The problem is that Brexiteers see any move to moderate the transition to Brexit as a threat. This includes the actions of Scotland to give themselves a say and the legal challenge to ensure that parliamentary democracy prevails.

Of course a referendum could be held on another matter - say on the conditions of Brexit, or even a general election could be held. But that's a different matter.

Your quite right here. I think that this 'hot potato' is getting too hot for May. It definitely looks like a general election is now on the cards. Had there been unity within the party and a clear way forward after Brexit , article 50 would have long since been signed . As it is ,that hasn't happened, and the more the months go by without a signing,the more likelihood of the above

Red Eric Nov 27th 2016 8:21 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12115501)
TBH Fred I think the idea of a re-run was pitched very soon after the referendum but has since been dropped.

Sure - some people can make a reasonable argument for holding one but we all know it's not going to happen.

Other things will happen like ensuring that the law is complied with and May can't simply interpret the result as she sees fit but anyone seriously campaigning for another referendum is barking up the wrong tree.

The problem is that Brexiteers see any move to moderate the transition to Brexit as a threat. This includes the actions of Scotland to give themselves a say and the legal challenge to ensure that parliamentary democracy prevails.

Of course a referendum could be held on another matter - say on the conditions of Brexit, or even a general election could be held. But that's a different matter.

:goodpost: Spot on.

DaveLovesDee Nov 27th 2016 8:33 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12115450)

Cameron stating that the choice to Leave or Remain being ours, not Parliaments, misses the points that;

a) The referendum was advisory

and

b) that we are a Parliamentary democracy, and Parliament has the final say in enacting changes to legislation.


Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12115484)
Do either of you read the posts on this thread????

I read the post you quoted as referring to having a second referendum or an election on the terms of Brexit once these have been decided between both parties.

Not as an attempt to change the result of the first referendum.

Bipat Nov 27th 2016 11:32 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Set to commit to UK Steel for next decade.
(Not worried about Brexit!)

https://www.theguardian.com/business...el-next-decade

(Sorry it's the Guardian, better article in Sunday Times but couldn't get a link).

EMR Nov 27th 2016 11:38 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12115571)
Set to commit to UK Steel for next decade.
(Not worried about Brexit!)

https://www.theguardian.com/business...el-next-decade

(Sorry it's the Guardian, better article in Sunday Times but couldn't get a link).

Good News but yet again little to do with Brexit.
Because Brexit has yet to happen.
The Times calls it a 100million pound year rescue plan and its intentions to merge its steel interest with the GERMAN mega conglomerate Thyssen Krupp.
The pension fund and its responsibilities for 130,000 current and future pensioners will be " off loaded ".
The deal hinges on striking a deal to rid itself of the 15billion pound pension fund and achieving improvemnts in productivity.
Its a plan, not a fact.
It will be no coincidence that it follows just a few days after Jaguar landrover ( Tata) announced a viability study for an electric vehicle plant to be built " POSSIBLY " in the UK or Germany.
No doubt subject to the UK retaining tarrif free access to the EU or the UK government providing support if Jagual Landrover has to pay tarrifs. NISSAN comes to mind.


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