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Bipat Nov 16th 2016 7:56 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12106894)
The new rules will be a tougher version of those you do not like.
If not how will your brexit government achieve the target of reducing immigration to a few tens thousands.

Post Brexit rules can be changed, according to need. Governments can be changed. Nothing is fixed in Treaties. The agreement if 27 other countries is not needed.

la mancha Nov 16th 2016 8:00 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12106777)

Correct, as were many other topics. But Brexit wasn't defined. And Parliament gets to decide which Brexit we get.

And the people vote for our MPs. Let’s get this done with and see which MPs decide what.

la mancha Nov 16th 2016 8:02 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12106785)
Do join us in the real workd if only for a few minutes. BOE forcast for inflstion is to rise to at least 2% as a reaction to the fall in sterling.
Facts Dick, Facts.

Since when was a forecast a fact?

EMR Nov 16th 2016 8:20 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12106905)
Since when was a forecast a fact?

Come back when the impact of the fall in sterling hits the inflation figures.
Do you drive a car, have yiou noticed what has happened to fuel prices due to the fall in sterling.
That is a fact, not a forcas .

amideislas Nov 16th 2016 8:22 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Cost of imports.. including the materials that supply British manufacturers, right down to a local bakery... Just went up 15% (and likely more after the next hit to the pound, when Article 50 is triggered). Somewhere, somehow, it's going to filter down to the consumer. Unless, of course, British businesses are willing to take that hit because of the Three Brexiteers' assurance that all will be just fine. But that's not lookin' real credible at the moment.

EMR Nov 16th 2016 8:22 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12106904)
And the people vote for our MPs. Let’s get this done with and see which MPs decide what.

I have no problem with MPs voting in linecwith their constituents..
Would you accept that areas that voted remain should expect their MPs to vote against any brexit bill.

Red Eric Nov 16th 2016 8:24 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12106904)
And the people vote for our MPs. Let’s get this done with and see which MPs decide what.

You seem to be in a dreadful rush.

There's the small matter of the government being formally informed by the courts as to what the correct procedure is in order to comply with the law of the land. They could have either got it right first off, or, having made the wrong choice altogether, simply accepted the High Court decision and got on with it but for some odd reason they think it's better to argue the toss in a court of appeal.

The correct procedure in order to comply with the law of the land is important because unless it is complied with, it might not be possible under EU law for the UK to have Article 50 negotiations at all.

So - as was pointed out quite soon after the referendum result was announced and again after May announced the end of March as the desired date for triggering Article 50 - it might take some time longer than that to comply with the UK's own laws and to come up with an agreed starting point for negotiations.

EMR Nov 16th 2016 8:25 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12106900)
Post Brexit rules can be changed, according to need. Governments can be changed. Nothing is fixed in Treaties. The agreement if 27 other countries is not needed.

You really are out of touch with UK politics, just google Mays views on reducing immigration and honouring what was in the Tory manifesto.
It has nothing to do with the EU or any treaties when we brexit,
But then pigs may fly.

la mancha Nov 16th 2016 8:31 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12106921)
Come back when the impact of the fall in sterling hits the inflation figures.
Do you drive a car, have yiou noticed what has happened to fuel prices due to the fall in sterling.
That is a fact, not a forcas .

Dick posted a fact. You posted a forecast. When a forecast happens it is a fact. Euro area inflation has risen this month. That is a fact.

amideislas Nov 16th 2016 8:34 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Since when has Dick posted a fact? Dick is... well, a Dick. He's Dickish. He posts Dick stuff. Since when does being a Dick qualify as a "fact"?

la mancha Nov 16th 2016 8:37 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12106924)
You seem to be in a dreadful rush.

There's the small matter of the government being formally informed by the courts as to what the correct procedure is in order to comply with the law of the land. They could have either got it right first off, or, having made the wrong choice altogether, simply accepted the High Court decision and got on with it but for some odd reason they think it's better to argue the toss in a court of appeal.

The correct procedure in order to comply with the law of the land is important because unless it is complied with, it might not be possible under EU law for the UK to have Article 50 negotiations at all.

So - as was pointed out quite soon after the referendum result was announced and again after May announced the end of March as the desired date for triggering Article 50 - it might take some time longer than that to comply with the UK's own laws and to come up with an agreed starting point for negotiations.

That is a good thing. After the Court of Appeal we can get on with it and we will know exactly where our MPs stand on this.

EMR Nov 16th 2016 8:43 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12106931)
Dick posted a fact. You posted a forecast. When a forecast happens it is a fact. Euro area inflation has risen this month. That is a fact.

UK fuel price increases are a fact, those companies you will have seen interviewed on UK tv discussing the rise in their material costs are facts.
Aluminium and ither traded metals has risen by almost 10% due to the decline in sterling.
What will be your excuse when inflatiion rises..

EMR Nov 16th 2016 8:45 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12106931)
Dick posted a fact. You posted a forecast. When a forecast happens it is a fact. Euro area inflation has risen this month. That is a fact.

Dick posts a headline, details and facts just get in the way.
It par for the course for our ultra brexiters.

la mancha Nov 16th 2016 8:46 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12106945)
UK fuel price increases are a fact, those companies you will have seen interviewed on UK tv discussing the rise in their material costs are facts.
Aluminium and ither traded metals has risen by almost 10% due to the decline in sterling.
What will be your excuse when inflatiion rises..

The same as what it is for the latest rise in Euro area inflation. Which is?

Bipat Nov 16th 2016 8:48 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12106925)
You really are out of touch with UK politics, just google Mays views on reducing immigration and honouring what was in the Tory manifesto.
It has nothing to do with the EU or any treaties when we brexit,
But then pigs may fly.

We have General Elections. Every five years since 2011, sooner if a vote of 'no confidence'. Question time daily in the Commons etc.
General public are more in touch with UK politics than with the procedures of the EU!!


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