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mfesharne Nov 5th 2016 4:03 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12096554)
What exactly did 17 million vote for? And how do you know?

They voted on the question that was asked but surely you know that?

As for your 2nd question you might like to look up the word 'expect'. ;)

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mikelincs Nov 5th 2016 4:03 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096552)
You could be right but if that does happen I'd expect a considerable amount of civil unrest from the electorate & very possibly considerable UKIP gains at the next GE.

UKIP is a headless chicken, but Nige has promised to return in 2019 if he isn't happy with what has happened.

Lion in Winter Nov 5th 2016 4:05 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12096555)
And that's probably a good analogy. Not every will want porridge though, and can we have tomatoes instead of black pudding?....

Whereas I simply cannot deal with beans.

Lion in Winter Nov 5th 2016 4:07 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096559)
They voted on the question that was asked but surely you know that?

As for your 2nd question you might like to look up the word 'expect'. ;)

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And this is exactly it. They voted to leave, not on the terms of the leaving.

How do you know what those different expectations were? Specifically?

mfesharne Nov 5th 2016 4:09 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12096560)
UKIP is a headless chicken, but Nige has promised to return in 2019 if he isn't happy with what has happened.

It is right now but just watch it change if A50 hasn't been triggered when the date for the next GE is announced.

I reckon UKIP would field candidates in most if not all constituencies if that situation arises.

paulry Nov 5th 2016 4:09 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096552)
You could be right but if that does happen I'd expect a considerable amount of civil unrest from the electorate & very possibly considerable UKIP gains at the next GE.

I agree, though it's increasingly looking like the only way to break free from the EU will be for the EU to cease to exist.

mfesharne Nov 5th 2016 4:13 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12096567)
And this is exactly it. They voted to leave, not on the terms of the leaving.

How do you know what those different expectations were? Specifically?

Read the ballot paper & look at the numbers & it'll tell you all you need to know.

The vote was simply to leave not to leave under a certain set of circumstances or if certain criteria could or could not be met.

Just to leave.

So that's what should happen no matter what deals are or are not struck.

EMR Nov 5th 2016 4:14 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096552)
You could be right but if that does happen I'd expect a considerable amount of civil unrest from the electorate & very possibly considerable UKIP gains at the next GE.

Another who has little idea of how the UK works.
We use elections to demonstrate our satisfaction or otherwise with government not mob rule.
Ukip is in disarray, the party at the moment set to make gains are the Liberals who are attracting those who do not like the directions the other two major parties are taking.
Liberals win elections unlike Ukip.

mfesharne Nov 5th 2016 4:14 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12096569)
I agree, though it's increasingly looking like the only way to break free from the EU will be for the EU to cease to exist.

Ja, you might also be right on that.

EMR Nov 5th 2016 4:17 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096575)
Ja, you might also be right on that.

Ja?

Lion in Winter Nov 5th 2016 4:19 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096572)
Read the ballot paper & look at the numbers & it'll tell you all you need to know.

The vote was simply to leave not to leave under a certain set of circumstances or if certain criteria could or could not be met.

Just to leave.

So that's what should happen no matter what deals are or are not struck.

Exactly. And nobody is seriously suggesting that we will not leave or that Parliament will vote in direct contradiction to the outcome of the referendum.

What is uncertain, and upon which nobody voted at all, is what the relationship will look like once we are no longer members. You might have wanted or expected certain things, other people wanted or expected other things. All this was amply discussed on here before the referendum.

If this ruling is upheld, Parliament will have oversight of what the government is doing. Why is this a bad thing?

DaveLovesDee Nov 5th 2016 4:21 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12096572)
The vote was simply to leave not to leave under a certain set of circumstances or if certain criteria could or could not be met.

Just to leave.

So that's what should happen no matter what deals are or are not struck.

Now you're getting it.

Parliament will debate the terms May wants Brexit to be. And that's what the court ruling decided.

Red Eric Nov 5th 2016 4:27 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12096576)
Ja?

It's a mating call ;)

Red Eric Nov 5th 2016 4:30 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12096578)
Now you're getting it.

Parliament will debate the terms May wants Brexit to be. And that's what the court ruling decided.

Man - that's a relief.

Finally, after 534 pages, it's come to the point we started at.

Shall we put it down as a false start and go back to our blocks?

Lion in Winter Nov 5th 2016 4:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12096581)
It's a mating call ;)

Thanks for the mental pic.


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