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Dick Dasterdly Oct 28th 2016 5:41 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12089847)
Perhaps what said "support" consists of was a commitment, expressed to Nissan, that the UK intends to remain in the single market on a pay to play basis (in exchange for what, we don't yet know).

I'm sure Nissan didn't choose to invest based on a vague and cheery message of support - that isn't how businesses do business. They have to meet a rules of origin requirement to export tariff-free into the EU, and that is pretty concrete.

Commitment is probably closer to the mark, just as the govt should be committed to helping and encouraging all businesses in many different ways.

amideislas Oct 28th 2016 5:48 pm

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Somebody's going to have to pay for it, dick. At a time when tax revenues are dropping by up to a third.

Well, there's where your nonexistent £350 million goes. Question is, where will the real money come from?

Lion in Winter Oct 28th 2016 5:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12089855)
Commitment is probably closer to the mark, just as the govt should be committed to helping and encouraging all businesses in many different ways.

So staying in the single market is likely to come at the price of keeping freedom of movement. At least I believe that is what has been said so far.

I'm fine with that.

Not sure you and others will like it though - or is it ok if they are helping and encouraging businesses?

DaveLovesDee Oct 28th 2016 5:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12089844)
That's an EU ruling that only applies to the UK

Incorrect. EU Trade Defence

And the anti-subsidy rules seem to be a WTO thing.

TGA Oct 28th 2016 6:05 pm

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Poland has told the European Commission it will defy their rulings because the Commission doesn’t respect Polish sovereignty or understand the Polish legal system. After the Polish government passed legislation allowing it to appoint its own judges to the constitutional court, the EC told them that this was against the rule of law, the first time the EU executive has criticised a member state under its rule-of-law procedure. The Polish government has hit back:

“In our dialogue with the European Commission, we have assumed that our cooperation will be based on such principles as objectivism, or respect for sovereignty, subsidiarity, and national identity. However, we have gradually come to realise that interferences into Poland’s internal affairs are not characterised by adherence to such principles. On top of that, such actions are largely based on incorrect assumptions which lead to unwarranted conclusions. So we regret to note that the Commission Recommendation is an expression of incomplete knowledge about how the legal system and the Constitutional Tribunal operate in Poland.”
Rebellion is spreading…
order-order

mrken30 Oct 28th 2016 6:09 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12089453)
It even happens here.

You know, perfectly normal Brits paying a fortune for their holidays abroad, and then you get there, the place is full of foreigners, and they're too lazy to learn or speak proper English.

Good job we left that mess. Maybe by next year's hols, all those foreigners will have gone home.

Unless you go to parts of Spain, and then its full of English expats who only speak English.

mrken30 Oct 28th 2016 6:12 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 12089811)
Don't tell me none of these "Brexiters" actually read a̶r̶t̶i̶c̶l̶e̶ ̶5̶0̶?

There's a surprise.

corrected. I prefer the term Be-leavers.

Fredbargate Oct 28th 2016 7:10 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12089877)
Incorrect. EU Trade Defence

And the anti-subsidy rules seem to be a WTO thing.

Don't be silly, the subject would not have been raised on the Brexit thread if it wasn't an EU problem;)

amideislas Oct 28th 2016 7:25 pm

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Where do you get this stuff? Daily mail?

The data suggests that the bulk of the problem is Britain's. The EU, while subject to some discomforts, suffers nowhere near the risks Britain does. Aside from British tabloids, there's precious few that believe there's any upside for Britain in any of this. Even the telegraph is succumbing to reality (although putting a positive spin on it).


Most commentators agree that Britain outside the EU is set to become a smaller power. However, smaller should not necessarily mean less vibrant.

GeniB Oct 28th 2016 7:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12089514)
Check your facts.

The Govt has made no such promise to subsidise or hand taxpayers money to Nissan.

Indeed it still remains to be seen if Nissan will need any future assistance of any sort.

Project fear again.

Weeel I'm not looking at the red and black tops! I tend to believe the headlines in the Ft .If the financial world believes it will happen.. It will happen.

GeniB Oct 28th 2016 7:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12089855)
Commitment is probably closer to the mark, just as the govt should be committed to helping and encouraging all businesses in many different ways.


I had to read this twice . Could you possible be advocating government support for business's? NO... Surely not. Maggie T let our business's go to the wall in the past. in the good old traditional Tory way ' Let market forces prevail' was the cry. This sounds very socialist to me:eek:

Lion in Winter Oct 28th 2016 7:57 pm

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Imported foods starting to get hit by price rises.

Morrisons raises Marmite price by 12.5% - BBC News

Where the hell is Marmite made, anyway?

jimenato Oct 28th 2016 7:57 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by GeniB (Post 12090000)
I had to read this twice . Could you possible be advocating government support for business's? NO... Surely not. Maggie T let our business's go to the wall in the past. in the good old traditional Tory way ' Let market forces prevail' was the cry. This sounds very socialist to me:eek:

Yep. Back to the '70s, very 'old labour'.

Damned lefties.

Fredbargate Oct 28th 2016 7:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12090012)
Imported foods starting to get hit by price rises.

Morrisons raises Marmite price by 12.5% - BBC News

Where the hell is Marmite made, anyway?

Burton on Trent

DaveLovesDee Oct 28th 2016 8:07 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12090013)
Yep. Back to the '70s, very 'old labour'.

Damned lefties.

It's Corbyn's fault.


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