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Vexcore Oct 20th 2016 12:26 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12081337)
I shall bookmark this post. :thumbsup:

sad bastard lol:lol:

EMR Oct 20th 2016 12:27 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by GeniB (Post 12081354)
Does anyone on here know anything about business? running a business' running one within the EU?
I noted that only three people answered my little questionnaire a few hundred pages back.. Thank you to them for taking the time.I believe it came out a majority were not adversely affected by immigration or EU laws whilst living in the uk.

I despair reading some of the arrogant assumptions by some posters on here in regard to how the UK will fare post article 50.

Business is about products.making them. making them at costs that are interesting to buyers.be they individuals or countries.about bringing revenue back, adding to the vital GDP by which a country lives.Business is very much about confidence too.

We have never been told just how much the EU subsidise's UK business's. why not?.Does the EU pay for our roads? (as they do in the rest of Europe) We have only recently discovered that they have poured billions into cities like Liverpool and Cardiff (to name only two) Why didn't we know this before the vote? No one seems to be standing up and demanding to know the honest answers to these questions. Instead we bleat about vague EU laws we can't name that are causing us great harm? what laws? How much WE pay into the EU.. not what we get back.

What do we make in the UK.? What do we sell? Who owns our business's how are they coping with this post Brexit impasse? THESE are the burning questions today. Not how tough Theresa May is,or any of the other 'poseur's' in parliament. We seem to know frighteningly little about the actual state of the nation and it's ability to survive once that paper is signed .
More to the point we have used up 455 pages discussing everything BUT this point.

I know quite a bit about the car/truck Industry and i am very concerned about it's future in the UK. We don't make much anymore . we assemble. mainly for companies based outside the UK. Do we seriously believe that they will remain in the UK post signing? This applies to the Banking sector and certainly to the Insurance sector..( The son of a friend of mine lost his job in insurance immediately after the vote, as his area covered Germany.) Insurance companies are already breaking up into small specialist start ups.

Think about these issues for a change instead of the endless and pointless rhetoric about remainer's and leavers ,EU and UK laws.These are dead or dry issues that won't put bread on the table for millions of confused ,mislead and worried Brits in the future .

I could not agree with you more.
If we ignore the looney fring of brexit who regard the economy as just a minor distraction it will be those on average wage , struggling to keep pace with rising prices and minimal wage rises who will pay the price of brexit if this government gets it wrong.
Those who voted brexit in the mistaken belief that it would result in positive changes in their circumstances will use their votes to punish the government.

Bipat Oct 20th 2016 1:01 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by GeniB (Post 12081354)
Does anyone on here know anything about business? running a business' running one within the EU?
I noted that only three people answered my little questionnaire a few hundred pages back.. Thank you to them for taking the time.I believe it came out a majority were not adversely affected by immigration or EU laws whilst living in the uk.

I despair reading some of the arrogant assumptions by some posters on here in regard to how the UK will fare post article 50.

Business is about products.making them. making them at costs that are interesting to buyers.be they individuals or countries.about bringing revenue back, adding to the vital GDP by which a country lives.Business is very much about confidence too.

We have never been told just how much the EU subsidise's UK business's. why not?.Does the EU pay for our roads? (as they do in the rest of Europe) We have only recently discovered that they have poured billions into cities like Liverpool and Cardiff (to name only two) Why didn't we know this before the vote? No one seems to be standing up and demanding to know the honest answers to these questions. Instead we bleat about vague EU laws we can't name that are causing us great harm? what laws? How much WE pay into the EU.. not what we get back.

What do we make in the UK.? What do we sell? Who owns our business's how are they coping with this post Brexit impasse? THESE are the burning questions today. Not how tough Theresa May is,or any of the other 'poseur's' in parliament. We seem to know frighteningly little about the actual state of the nation and it's ability to survive once that paper is signed .
More to the point we have used up 455 pages discussing everything BUT this point.

I know quite a bit about the car/truck Industry and i am very concerned about it's future in the UK. We don't make much anymore . we assemble. mainly for companies based outside the UK. Do we seriously believe that they will remain in the UK post signing? This applies to the Banking sector and certainly to the Insurance sector..( The son of a friend of mine lost his job in insurance immediately after the vote, as his area covered Germany.) Insurance companies are already breaking up into small specialist start ups.

Think about these issues for a change instead of the endless and pointless rhetoric about remainer's and leavers ,EU and UK laws.These are dead or dry issues that won't put bread on the table for millions of confused ,mislead and worried Brits in the future .

I put this link before. Small and medium size businesses yes, but I presume all businesses start small!!

(Sorry EMR it is not a UK newspaper but no reason to think the content is not true ---she is actually coming here. Her hut is prepared!)

Theresa May heads to India with eye on post-Brexit trade - Times of India

EMR Oct 20th 2016 1:11 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12081410)
I put this link before. Small and medium size businesses yes, but I presume all businesses start small!!

(Sorry EMR it is not a UK newspaper but no reason to think the content is not true ---she is actually coming here. Her hut is prepared!)

Theresa May heads to India with eye on post-Brexit trade - Times of India

Good news for Indian companies hoping to export to the UK.

Bipat Oct 20th 2016 1:16 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12081420)
Good news for Indian companies hoping to export to the UK.

Did you actually read the link??
Trade is two way--why put UK 'down' all the time? There are UK products everywhere in Malls etc. With a massive fast growing middle class market, also remember many British/ Indian origin business people in UK who voted for Brexit.

EMR Oct 20th 2016 1:20 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12081425)
Did you actually read the link??
Trade is two way--why put UK 'down' all the time? There are UK products everywhere in Malls etc. With a massive fast growing middle class market, also remember many British/ Indian origin business people in UK who voted for Brexit.

A UK label does not mean manufactured in the UK, all those luxury brands you see are often made thousands of miles away from the UK.
We do get the profits which shareholders enjoy but this hardly benefits the UK unemployed or low paid looking for a decent job.
I cannot see what the voting trends of British asians has got to do with this.
May is doing nothing to protect UK steel workers from chinese imports.

SultanOfSwing Oct 20th 2016 1:20 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12081227)
Yet more bad news for the Remoaners.

Handelsbanken remains optimistic about UK operations | Reuters


"Sweden's Handelsbanken (SHBa.ST) plans to press ahead with its expansion in Britain despite the country's vote to leave the European Union, newly appointed Chief Executive Anders Bouvin said on Wednesday."

Guess what - the idea of a successful post-Brexit Britain is not bad news for those who would prefer the UK to remain in the EU. It's what everyone wants.

However, given that Britain is still pre-Brexit, these are only speculations and one should at least be realistic about that.

jimenato Oct 20th 2016 1:46 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12081429)
Guess what - the idea of a successful post-Brexit Britain is not bad news for those who would prefer the UK to remain in the EU. It's what everyone wants.

However, given that Britain is still pre-Brexit, these are only speculations and one should at least be realistic about that.

It's astonishing isn't it that someone would misconstrue news like that to be 'bad' news?

We are desperate for any snippets of good news we can get - God knows they are few and far between.

To interpret that as 'bad' news would be as utterly stupid as interpreting bad news for the EU (e.g. problems caused to the EU by the Brexit vote or problems with the Euro) as being somehow good.

No one would be that stupid.

Would they?

Bipat Oct 20th 2016 1:47 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12081427)
A UK label does not mean manufactured in the UK, all those luxury brands you see are often made thousands of miles away from the UK.
We do get the profits which shareholders enjoy but this hardly benefits the UK unemployed or low paid looking for a decent job.
I cannot see what the voting trends of British asians has got to do with this.
May is doing nothing to protect UK steel workers from chinese imports.

What makes you think they are "luxury" brands? How do you know what I see?
British "Asians"??---we are discussing the visit of the Prime Minister to 'India'. A poll was carried out regarding the voting of British-Indian origin people in the referendum----be accurate.
There are multiple businesses in the UK run by the Indian origin diaspora.

mrken30 Oct 20th 2016 1:48 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Why does everyone keep on about EU immigrant when the largest amount of immigrants came from India and China. When i was last at school India and China were not in the EU.

http://www.neighbourhood.statistics....123/index.html

SultanOfSwing Oct 20th 2016 1:48 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12081460)
It's astonishing isn't it that someone would misconstrue news like that to be 'bad' news?

We are desperate for any snippets of good news we can get - God knows they are few and far between.

To interpret that as 'bad' news would be as utterly stupid as interpreting bad news for the EU (e.g. problems caused to the EU by the Brexit vote or problems with the Euro) as being somehow good.

No one would be that stupid.

Would they?

Consider the source ...

Bipat Oct 20th 2016 1:54 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12081463)
Why does everyone keep on about EU immigrant when the largest amount of immigrants came from India and China. When i was last at school India and China were not in the EU.

Because EU migrants have 'free movement', non-EU migrants need visas, work permits etc. One of the issues Mrs May will need to address when she is in India.

jimenato Oct 20th 2016 2:00 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12081463)
Why does everyone keep on about EU immigrant when the largest amount of immigrants came from India and China. When i was last at school India and China were not in the EU.

Long-term Migration into and out of the United Kingdom, 1964-2013

Odd isn't it?

One of the assumptions being made by Breckers about Brexit is that immigration will be reduced.

But will it?

The government could have reduced the number of non-EU immigrants whenever they wanted but didn't.

Why would they start now?

EMR Oct 20th 2016 2:06 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12081461)
What makes you think they are "luxury" brands? How do you know what I see?
British "Asians"??---we are discussing the visit of the Prime Minister to 'India'. A poll was carried out regarding the voting of British-Indian origin people in the referendum----be accurate.
There are multiple businesses in the UK run by the Indian origin diaspora.

You keep posting links from Indian papers about the benefits to India following brexit.
Nice as that is my priority is how the UK will benefit a view no doubt shared by those Asian businessmen in the UK , where they earn their profits etc.
What brands do you see ?
Where are they manufactured ?

EMR Oct 20th 2016 2:11 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12081470)
Because EU migrants have 'free movement', non-EU migrants need visas, work permits etc. One of the issues Mrs May will need to address when she is in India.

May will not reduce the regulations regarding non EU migrants you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe otherwise.
The UK electorate will punish her if immigration , all immigration does not fall.
The chancellor is aleady at odds with fellow cabinet members as they want to introduce even tighter rules regarding students and those in the finance and other high skill sectors.


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