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Red Eric Oct 13th 2016 8:12 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12075056)

Her proposal goes considerably beyond the four-year moratorium controversially argued for by the former British prime minister David Cameron before the UK’s EU referendum.


It is the Guardian and so slightly suspect, Journalism not being their strong point, but it is also very much against their world view.

Sorry, you've lost me - what world view is that and how is this against it?


Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12075056)
Part of the problem with the UK membership was that others see the rules as 'guidance' and not to be seriously followed, France was usually the main culprit.

But - as Brexiters have pointed out on numerous occasions, the EU is a dictatorship. One simply can't disobey the rules. And even the more moderate Leavers have complained non-stop about the interventions of the ECJ. So saying that nobody bothers to follow the rules is ridiculous - unless you're trying to impute that the EU has picked on the UK whilst leaving everyone else alone?

I must say, though - I'm not at all surprised that this attitude exists. My experience of reading balderdash about Portugal continually flouting EU law over one matter or another on this and other forums is proof absolute of the fact that many people simply don't care about the truth, even when it is pointed out to them on numerous occasions, with evidence, and they have absolutely no solid basis on which to continue their misapprehension. Just trot it all out again at the next available opportunity. Job done. There's even an English language newspaper that specialises in this kind of half-baked nonsense, the Bible of the bashers.


Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12075056)
I see nothing to suggest that this is EU compliant, and I will wait with eager anticipation for the full wait of the ECJ to come down on Germany:sarcasm:

I see absolutely nothing in any detail at all so it's extremely difficult to say whether it is or isn't compliant but I'm sure that they wouldn't have spent months working on something that they know to be non-compliant and that if it is the ECJ will rule against them once a case is brought. If the government is proposing denying that same welfare to its own citizens on the same basis as well, then it's compliant.

amideislas Oct 13th 2016 8:19 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 12075402)
Yes we all read the story. Unilever thinking they can capitalise and Tesco standing up to them. Hardly food shortages, personally I think I will boycott Unilever, you know try a different brand of pot noodle :unsure:, and I am sure the usual demand / supply economics will come into play.


See, this is the problem with your end-end delusion.

The fact, is, that since the pound has tanked, those products simply cost more in Britain. Tesco says that cost should be absorbed by Unilever. Unilever, a non-British company, says no, you need to raise your prices. Tesco [arrogantly] says, OK, then we'll drop your products.

This is suspiciously consistent with all of the delusions of the Brexit campaign. We chose this path, but don't expect to have to suffer any consequences. That's "somebody else's problem", and if they don't accept it, then they're "unpatriotic". They're all just a bunch of foreigners, after all.

Anyway it's hardly unexpected:
Retailers warn government of Brexit price rises - BBC News


I wonder how many other products Tesco will be willing to drop.

paulry Oct 13th 2016 8:52 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12075439)
Ja, the flood damage was incredible....... A friend of mine had a house on the Crocodile River which was completely washed away in a matter of minutes & she wasn't the only one it happened to. :(

Both White River & Nelspruit have changed immensely in the last decade or so & are both now fabulous places. A lot more crime now though.

We left in 2011 & from what I hear, the area has seen a fair number of us Muzungus leaving in those intervening years.

Several years earlier (late 80s) my geologist mates and I rescued three big mamas from the in-flood Crocodile River. We were transferring our gear across a rope bridge when three of them crossed at the same time loaded up with provisions. Their combined weight was enough to cause the bridge to get caught by the raging waters below flipping the bridge over, trapping one bloke in the ropes (fortunately someone was able to free him), snapping the ropes and throwing the women into the rushing water. We saw this and ran downstream ahead of them and were able to form a human chain to scoop them out of the water as they passed by. It was a very tribal area and one of the women turned out to be one of the local headman's wives. We were treated like kings for the rest of the time we worked in the area after that! :D

...More than 25 years on I still miss the high adventure and exhilaration, living on the edge in Africa.

jimenato Oct 13th 2016 9:30 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12075461)
See, this is the problem with your end-end delusion.

The fact, is, that since the pound has tanked, those products simply cost more in Britain. Tesco says that cost should be absorbed by Unilever. Unilever, a non-British company, says no, you need to raise your prices. Tesco [arrogantly] says, OK, then we'll drop your products.

This is suspiciously consistent with all of the delusions of the Brexit campaign. We chose this path, but don't expect to have to suffer any consequences. That's "somebody else's problem", and if they don't accept it, then they're "unpatriotic". They're all just a bunch of foreigners, after all.

Anyway it's hardly unexpected:
Retailers warn government of Brexit price rises - BBC News


I wonder how many other products Tesco will be willing to drop.

Yup - it's always going to be someone else's fault isn't it? Leave voters WILL NOT be wrong. Whatever happens from now on HAS TO BE GOOD to a leaver - because they voted for it.

mfesharne Oct 13th 2016 9:34 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12075477)
Several years earlier (late 80s) my geologist mates and I rescued three big mamas from the in-flood Crocodile River. We were transferring our gear across a rope bridge when three of them crossed at the same time loaded up with provisions. Their combined weight was enough to cause the bridge to get caught by the raging waters below flipping the bridge over, trapping one bloke in the ropes (fortunately someone was able to free him), snapping the ropes and throwing the women into the rushing water. We saw this and ran downstream ahead of them and were able to form a human chain to scoop them out of the water as they passed by. It was a very tribal area and one of the women turned out to be one of the local headman's wives. We were treated like kings for the rest of the time we worked in the area after that! :D

...More than 25 years on I still miss the high adventure and exhilaration, living on the edge in Africa.

Happy days hey? :)

Sad to say Africa (especially southern Africa) has changed so much in the intervening years..... and not for the better.

jimenato Oct 13th 2016 9:47 am

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I don't suppose anyone is foolish enough to believe this any more but...

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...54&oe=5866A0CE

DaveLovesDee Oct 13th 2016 9:53 am

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A handy Brexit guide

Bahtatboy Oct 13th 2016 10:48 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12075519)

Beautiful plumage.

Fredbargate Oct 13th 2016 11:56 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
SNP's Nicola Sturgeon announces new independence referendum bill

SNP's Nicola Sturgeon announces new independence referendum bill - BBC News

Possibly an extra Brexit bonus? :thumbsup:

mfesharne Oct 13th 2016 12:14 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12075606)
SNP's Nicola Sturgeon announces new independence referendum bill

SNP's Nicola Sturgeon announces new independence referendum bill - BBC News

Possibly an extra Brexit bonus? :thumbsup:

Sounds good to me!

Bwahahahahahaha

Scotland's a bigger economic basket case than Greece | Daily Mail Online

amideislas Oct 13th 2016 12:18 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Another set of stinkin' foreigners to get rid of in the process.

Has NI said anything about joining Ireland yet? That dodgy bunch needs to go, too.

DaveLovesDee Oct 13th 2016 12:24 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12075615)
Has NI said anything about joining Ireland yet? That dodgy bunch needs to go, too.

That's the only way the NI-RoI border isn't going to change.

mfesharne Oct 13th 2016 12:26 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Whilst I fail to understand why the Poison Dwarf wants to leave a democratic union & join an undemocratic one an independent Scotland as an EU member state would be the perfect solution for the Remoaniacs who could if they wished go & live there.

They'll have both the Euro & the EU, several mad dictators to choose from & to top it all off, 40% VAT.

And us Brexiters would be shot of 'em. - Lovely! :)

Pure heaven for all concerned! :)

amideislas Oct 13th 2016 12:29 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
The reason you find it so difficult is that you're basing it all on a false premise.

Red Eric Oct 13th 2016 12:52 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12075619)
Whilst I fail to understand why the Poison Dwarf wants to leave a democratic union & join an undemocratic one an independent Scotland as an EU member state would be the perfect solution for the Remoaniacs who could if they wished go & live there.

What about the Brexshitters who have been so adamant they want the sovereign UK out of the undemocratic dictatorial EU and then insist on continuing to live within the undemocratic dictatorship? And not only in the EU but also in the dreaded Schengen and Euro zones, to boot.

What I fail to understand is what's their perfect solution? I can think of at least one which would erase that particular hypocrisy.


Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12075619)
And us Brexiters would be shot of 'em. - Lovely! :)

:confused: More shot of them than you are, living in Portugal?


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