Post EU Referendum
Oct 4th 2016, 8:14 pm
#5371
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re: Post EU Referendum
I think brexiteers need to come to grips with one simple fact.
International investors (Britain is wholly dependent on foreign investment) are interested in returns on their investments. Full stop.
The union jack is not a factor in any of their analysis. Full stop.
The question is, without the European market, what does Britain have to offer the world?
The latest sky news poll suggests that the majority of Britons favour stopping immigration over the single market. Despite the fact that as a matter of public record, immigration has provided the UK with significant economic benefits.
OK. Fine. But there is a price to be paid.
International investors (Britain is wholly dependent on foreign investment) are interested in returns on their investments. Full stop.
The union jack is not a factor in any of their analysis. Full stop.
The question is, without the European market, what does Britain have to offer the world?
The latest sky news poll suggests that the majority of Britons favour stopping immigration over the single market. Despite the fact that as a matter of public record, immigration has provided the UK with significant economic benefits.
OK. Fine. But there is a price to be paid.
Last edited by amideislas; Oct 4th 2016 at 8:19 pm.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:18 pm
#5372
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
That isn't going to be cheap, either.
Has there ever been a secure border there anyway? We only crossed a few times in the pre-Agreement/pre-ceasefire NI and other than a few army checkpoints, I don't remember any kind of border control, we could always just cross the border without incident. Aren't NI citizens also de facto Irish citizens anyway per the Agreement?
Has there ever been a secure border there anyway? We only crossed a few times in the pre-Agreement/pre-ceasefire NI and other than a few army checkpoints, I don't remember any kind of border control, we could always just cross the border without incident. Aren't NI citizens also de facto Irish citizens anyway per the Agreement?
), and that's one part of the GFA we're tearing up.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:27 pm
#5373
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
The border's always been a soft one as far as I'm aware. And yes, NI-born persons automatically have Irish nationality (and will still be able to exercise free movement across the EU - just not between the two countries of their passports as there'll have to be immigration checkpoints ), and that's one part of the GFA we're tearing up.
), and that's one part of the GFA we're tearing up.Though, I suppose NI doesn't really count as 'British' in the eyes of most leavers.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:33 pm
#5374
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re: Post EU Referendum
Neither does Scotland. Bloody Foreigners. But at least they're white foreigners. I suppose we can live with that.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:34 pm
#5375
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
I think brexiteers need to come to grips with one simple fact.
International investors (Britain is wholly dependent on foreign investment) are interested in returns on their investments. Full stop.
The union jack is not a factor in any of their analysis. Full stop.
The question is, without the European market, what does Britain have to offer the world?
The latest sky news poll suggests that the majority of Britons favour stopping immigration over the single market. Despite the fact that as a matter of public record, immigration has provided the UK with significant economic benefits.
OK. Fine. But there is a price to be paid.
International investors (Britain is wholly dependent on foreign investment) are interested in returns on their investments. Full stop.
The union jack is not a factor in any of their analysis. Full stop.
The question is, without the European market, what does Britain have to offer the world?
The latest sky news poll suggests that the majority of Britons favour stopping immigration over the single market. Despite the fact that as a matter of public record, immigration has provided the UK with significant economic benefits.
OK. Fine. But there is a price to be paid.
You never miss an opportunity to run down our country and to pour scorn on our compatriots do you (that's assuming you really are British)?
I expect you'll come back with the predictable response, but you're just a British hater. Don't agree with me? Then take a look at the drivel you've posted these last several months.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:35 pm
#5376
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by paulry
The poll does not show that the majority of Britons favour stopping immigration over the single market! The poll shows that the majority of Britons favour CONTROLLING immigration over the single market.
You never miss an opportunity to run down our country and to pour scorn on our compatriots (that's assuming you really are British).
I expect you'll come back with the predictable response, but you're just a British hater. Don't agree with me? Then take a look at the anti-British drivel you've posted these last several months.
You never miss an opportunity to run down our country and to pour scorn on our compatriots (that's assuming you really are British).
I expect you'll come back with the predictable response, but you're just a British hater. Don't agree with me? Then take a look at the anti-British drivel you've posted these last several months.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:35 pm
#5377
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re: Post EU Referendum
Sorry, yes, I realise Britain is superior. My apologies.
Nonetheless, investors don't give a flying dynamic fark about the union jack. That's not going to save Britain.
Nonetheless, investors don't give a flying dynamic fark about the union jack. That's not going to save Britain.
Last edited by amideislas; Oct 4th 2016 at 8:39 pm.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:37 pm
#5378
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
That's projecting an awful lot of insecurity there. Want to talk about it?
Oct 4th 2016, 8:37 pm
#5379
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by paulry
The poll does not show that the majority of Britons favour stopping immigration over the single market! The poll shows that the majority of Britons favour CONTROLLING immigration over the single market.
You never miss an opportunity to run down our country and to pour scorn on our compatriots do you (that's assuming you really are British)?
I expect you'll come back with the predictable response, but you're just a British hater. Don't agree with me? Then take a look at the anti-British drivel you've posted these last several months.
You never miss an opportunity to run down our country and to pour scorn on our compatriots do you (that's assuming you really are British)?
I expect you'll come back with the predictable response, but you're just a British hater. Don't agree with me? Then take a look at the anti-British drivel you've posted these last several months.
Is that like being a "German hater"?
See where this "nation state" nonsense gets you? Conversations that sound like 12-year-olds squabbling.
Oct 4th 2016, 8:40 pm
#5380
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
How far is Britain from Europe? Oh, it's a doddle for Morrison's to get lettuce from Brazil. No problem at all. Just to spite Europe. Brilliant.
Capital can't access the world's largest economy because Britain has no access to it? Why base in Britain then? Frankfurt starts looking kind of attractive. Erm, the warnings about this are prolific. It's not MY idea.
Capital can't access the world's largest economy because Britain has no access to it? Why base in Britain then? Frankfurt starts looking kind of attractive. Erm, the warnings about this are prolific. It's not MY idea.
The fruit and veg I buy now before Brexit comes from, besides the EU, Chile, Egypt, South Africa, Palestine (yes!), Israel, Australia, Morocco, Colombia, Turkey, New Zealand and many more non-EU nations, but living on your island you wouldn’t know how the world works.
You have it the wrong way round. The EU wants to access the world’s capital. Why base in Britain (I think you mean London)? Because London has the expertise and infrastructure. Frankfurt does not. And, ‘London is the most global financial centre…’ And that is not MY idea, either.
All you have thus far is your opinion and ‘could be’ links.
You still left my question unanswered. ‘How do you think the Eurozone will come out of this, with the UK out of the single market and EU finance institutions having to get access to London to access capital?’
Oct 4th 2016, 8:43 pm
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by la mancha
The fruit and veg I buy now before Brexit comes from, besides the EU, Chile, Egypt, South Africa, Palestine (yes!), Israel, Australia, Morocco, Colombia, Turkey, New Zealand and many more non-EU nations, but living on your island you wouldn’t know how the world works.
You have it the wrong way round. The EU wants to access the world’s capital. Why base in Britain (I think you mean London)? Because London has the expertise and infrastructure. Frankfurt does not. And, ‘London is the most global financial centre…’ And that is not MY idea, either.
All you have thus far is your opinion and ‘could be’ links.
You still left my question unanswered. ‘How do you think the Eurozone will come out of this, with the UK out of the single market and EU finance institutions having to get access to London to access capital?’
You have it the wrong way round. The EU wants to access the world’s capital. Why base in Britain (I think you mean London)? Because London has the expertise and infrastructure. Frankfurt does not. And, ‘London is the most global financial centre…’ And that is not MY idea, either.
All you have thus far is your opinion and ‘could be’ links.
You still left my question unanswered. ‘How do you think the Eurozone will come out of this, with the UK out of the single market and EU finance institutions having to get access to London to access capital?’
Oct 4th 2016, 8:56 pm
#5382
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by paulry
Really? How so?
Oct 4th 2016, 9:01 pm
#5383
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
'British hater', 'anti-British drivel'. Laying it on a bit thick, aren't you?
Oct 4th 2016, 9:06 pm
#5384
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
Sigh.
I look forward to your reply tomorrow.
Oct 4th 2016, 9:06 pm
#5385
So long...
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re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by la mancha
The fruit and veg I buy now before Brexit comes from, besides the EU, Chile, Egypt, South Africa, Palestine (yes!), Israel, Australia, Morocco, Colombia, Turkey, New Zealand and many more non-EU nations, but living on your island you wouldn’t know how the world works.
You have it the wrong way round. The EU wants to access the world’s capital. Why base in Britain (I think you mean London)? Because London has the expertise and infrastructure. Frankfurt does not. And, ‘London is the most global financial centre…’ And that is not MY idea, either.
All you have thus far is your opinion and ‘could be’ links.
You still left my question unanswered. ‘How do you think the Eurozone will come out of this, with the UK out of the single market and EU finance institutions having to get access to London to access capital?’
