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GeniB Sep 24th 2016 7:51 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12060105)
UK car manufacturing hits highest August level for 14-Years

Very strange that, considering we'd been repeatedly told most of these companies would pack up and leave if the vote went for Brexit.

:confused:


Once AGAIN We haven't LEFT yet!!

What is it with this debate that insists that everything happening NOW will continue AFTER article 50 is signed and we leave the EU.. There is zero point in discussing our trade situation like this whilst we are still continuing under present day conditions Get real people

GeniB Sep 24th 2016 7:53 am

Re: Bring Back Britannia
 

Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12060301)


Cuckoo! cuckoo! cuckoo!... Unbelievable twaddle :eek:

Red Eric Sep 24th 2016 7:55 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Interesting update here on legal challenges to the government's threat to trigger Article 50 without parliamentary approval. The government, although it proclaims itself confident in the legal arguments that supposedly support this decision, has insisted that the public is not allowed to know what those arguments are. That's democracy in action for you, folks.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...le-50-proposal

jimenato Sep 24th 2016 8:02 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12060105)
UK car manufacturing hits highest August level for 14-Years

Very strange that, considering we'd been repeatedly told most of these companies would pack up and leave if the vote went for Brexit.

:confused:

A leading Brexiteer economist says that's what will happen but he still pressed for Brexit. I suppose he thinks it doesn't matter as we will be getting our country back.

amideislas Sep 24th 2016 8:09 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12060325)
Good God alive!! I find myself agreeing with Gideon : https://www.theguardian.com/politics...st-hard-brexit

A sad day indeed. I do hope there's a satisfactory antidote to this episode around lunchtime.

They don't care about the details, Eric.

That's the irony of the entire exercise. Nobody had a clue, and still don't. The details are not what anyone wants to hear or know about. Boris is a shining example of the cluelessness at even the highest levels.

Brexit, simply put, means "Brexit". Whatever that means.

amideislas Sep 24th 2016 8:15 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Brexit's economic windfall is a delusion


The post-Brexit economic news has put Brits in a sunnier mood, but the holidays are over and now it's time for a reality check.

A weaker currency of course makes all of Britain cheaper, and shortly after the Brexit vote Japan's Softbank announced it would buy U.K. chip designer ARM for more than 24 billion pounds ($31.5 billion).

Theresa May's new government celebrated that sale as evidence that the country had lost none of its allure to international investors.

This is a delusion. Britain has been living well beyond its means for years, and has no choice but to borrow or sell off the nation's treasures, including promising tech companies and swathes of prime London commercial and residential property, if it wishes to continue to do so.

The big problem is that its current account deficit -- the difference between money coming into the U.K. and money sent out -- has reached an astonishing 7 percent of GDP. Before the referendum, Bank of England governor Mark Carney warned that the nation's dependency on the "kindness of strangers", in the form of persistent foreign support, created a worrying vulnerability.

EMR Sep 24th 2016 8:32 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12060194)
:blink: Your imagination is running away with you remainiacs now. Why on earth would anyone ban imports? :confused: What sort of command economy state do you lot live in? If the UK exited without any trade deals, trade will still happen, don't worry, the sky wont fall in!

If we exit without a trade deal we are subject to WTO regulations which coukd involve the impositions of tarrifs.
It is not a case of anyone banning imports , just not being able to afford them.
There is also the quid pro quo approach to trade where no agreements exist.
You put a tarrif on us so we put one on you..
The idea of bans belong to bears with little brains.

amideislas Sep 24th 2016 8:34 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12060333)
Interesting update here on legal challenges to the government's threat to trigger Article 50 without parliamentary approval. The government, although it proclaims itself confident in the legal arguments that supposedly support this decision, has insisted that the public is not allowed to know what those arguments are. That's democracy in action for you, folks.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...le-50-proposal

Well, you know, like Trump, they have a "secret weapon" to force Europe into giving Britain everything it wants. It would be irresponsible to reveal it now.

I reckon MI6 is pretty busy digging up blackmail fodder on the leaders of the 27 member states. Hacking phones, porn sites visited, bank account histories, secret affairs... Stuff like that.

EMR Sep 24th 2016 8:36 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12060270)
No it wasn't

Except in your parallel universe

Really, as you obviously did not know about the Sept registrations, the growing trend for buying on credit, leasing , etc etc in fact little about real life in the UK..

EMR Sep 24th 2016 8:53 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12060352)
Well, you know, like Trump, they have a "secret weapon" to force Europe into giving Britain everything it wants. It would be irresponsible to reveal it now.

I reckon MI6 is pretty busy digging up blackmail fodder on the leaders of the 27 member states. Hacking phones, porn sites visited, bank account histories, secret affairs... Stuff like that.

You will read all about it in the Express:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ingles Sep 24th 2016 10:08 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Interesting development :p

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...le-50-proposal

reported near the bottom
"Gibraltar 96 % voted to remain"
Any comment Fred ???

amideislas Sep 24th 2016 10:15 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Schulz's tough talk on UK visit points towards 'hard Brexit'


German MEP Martin Schulz said, after meeting Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn and Sadiq Khan, that "access to the single market without freedom of movement is the request of the UK Government and that is for sure not feasible for the European Union".

His words directly contradict those made by Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson yesterday, in a separate interview with Sky.

Mr Johnson, the lead campaigner for Leave, said: "They would have us believe there's some automatic trade off between access to the single market and free movement. Complete baloney, absolute baloney."

The European Parliament will have to give its consent for any exit deal negotiated under Article 50.

The German MEP also dismissed the idea that Britain would get a sweetheart free-trade deal merely because German car manufacturers export to the UK.

He said the EU would not "tell the Polish government, because of the German car producers, you have to accept that your citizens are citizens of a second class in the European Union".

paulry Sep 24th 2016 10:27 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12060350)
If we exit without a trade deal we are subject to WTO regulations which coukd involve the impositions of tarrifs.
It is not a case of anyone banning imports , just not being able to afford them.
There is also the quid pro quo approach to trade where no agreements exist.
You put a tarrif on us so we put one on you..
The idea of bans belong to bears with little brains.

Yes so it is in everyone's interests to negotiate an equitable trade deal. But most of all it is in the EU's interests since they export more to the UK than the UK does to it. ;)

EMR Sep 24th 2016 10:35 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12060387)
Yes so it is in everyone's interests to negotiate an equitable trade deal. But most of all it is in the EU's interests since they export more to the UK than the UK does to it. ;)

Another who does not understand simple maths.
What % of UK gdp do exports to the EU represent.
What % of the combined gdp of the 27 nations do the EU exports to the UK represent.

The maths are not that difficult.
Rather like the % of those employed , the UK has far more to lose than the EU.

It is certainly in the interests of both parties to negotiate a deal and the UK will have to accept that degree movement must be part of it.

amideislas Sep 24th 2016 10:38 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12060387)
Yes so it is in everyone's interests to negotiate an equitable trade deal. But most of all it is in the EU's interests since they export more to the UK than the UK does to it. ;)

True, the UK doesn't export much.

The UK is all but entirely dependent on European imports.

The question, again, is why would Britain stop buying European goods?


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