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Vexcore Sep 17th 2016 11:02 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12054654)
Yesterdays man who could not even get elected as an MP.

How nmany voted in total in the ukip election was it around 20,000.
Hardly a force to be reckoned with are they.
The new leader, such a believer in democracy and the rights of members tore up the agenda so that those who opposed her and stood against her could not speak.

Still ticking huh? ;)


Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12054658)
Coffee is imported every single bean, and it is going up in price thanks to brexit.

I assume that basic economics and the importance of trade to the UK is no longer taught in UK schools.
Such is the ignorance shiwn by some of our obviously younger posters.

Good jesus... you can't make this stuff up.



Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12054659)
I didn't mention sovereignty. YOU did.

But since you brought it up, there is not and never has been a "sovereignty crisis". The UK has an opt-out from that. In fact, even now, the UK is the single most sovereign, independent and self-governing member of the EU. Bar none.

But you know, Brexit is Brexit.


Love you

Former Lancastrian Sep 17th 2016 11:03 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12054658)
Coffee is imported every single bean, and it is going up in price thanks to brexit.

I assume that basic economics and the importance of trade to the UK is no longer taught in UK schools.
Such is the ignorance shiwn by some of our obviously younger posters.

Coffee is probably going up in Canada as well is that due to Brexit?

EMR Sep 17th 2016 11:04 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12054641)
The only piece of what I thought was a UK brand that I own is a Dyson vacuum cleaner. I just went and had a look at it Made in Malaysia. I have no desire to own a Mini and can't afford a Jaguar or Rolls Royce. Im not into wearing Burberry brand clothing and I can get a variety of UK goods from stores or online.

Good old patriot Dyson sacked his local UK production workforce and moved production to Malaysia because it is cheaper.
His Uk operation is now mainly R&D and he constantly complains about the shortage of skilled UK designers and technicians.
He wanted brexit so that he could source skilled engineers etc from outside of the EU without the current regulations imposed by HMG.
He wants greater freedom to use immigrants not less.

EMR Sep 17th 2016 11:11 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12054664)
Coffee is probably going up in Canada as well is that due to Brexit?

If it is going up due to supply and demand, No.
Has the Canadian dollar fallen against the US dollar?
In the UK it will along with many basic food stuffs be increasing not just due to global demands but because of the fall in sterling.
Those on low incomes reliant on benefits, tax credits will be the first to pay the price of the referendum decision at the supermarket till when they do their weekly shop.

Former Lancastrian Sep 17th 2016 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12054666)
Good old patriot Dyson sacked his local UK production workforce and moved production to Malaysia because it is cheaper.
His Uk operation is now mainly R&D and he constantly complains about the shortage of skilled UK designers and technicians.
He wanted brexit so that he could source skilled engineers etc from outside of the EU without the current regulations imposed by HMG.
He wants greater freedom to use immigrants not less.

But a lot of countries are doing the same thing. Ford USA just announced the other day that it is shifting all small car production to Mexico. Many Canadian companies have done the same so its not just a UK thing.

Former Lancastrian Sep 17th 2016 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12054668)
If it is going up due to supply and demand, No.
Has the Canadian dollar fallen against the US dollar?
In the UK it will along with many basic food stuffs be increasing not just due to global demands but because of the fall in sterling.
Those on low incomes reliant on benefits, tax credits will be the first to pay the price of the referendum decision at the supermarket till when they do their weekly shop.

Yes the Canadian dollar has fallen against the US dollar so its currency fluctuation. Yes you can argue that Brexit has forced the UK pound to dip but all currencies fluctuate. If the UK pound had fallen without the Brexit vote then it still becomes more expensive so what do you blame it on then? Its a convenient way to blame Brexit for the drop in the pound though.

Vexcore Sep 17th 2016 11:21 am

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Wont things be changed the second article 50 is triggered?


Prices
Tax
Sterling
House Prices
Passports
Laws
Rules

Because we all know we haven't 'hit brexit yet' Jan/Feb 2017 is when they will trigger Article 50.

Former Lancastrian Sep 17th 2016 11:27 am

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Vexcore (Post 12054673)
Wont things be changed the second article 50 is triggered?


Prices
Tax
Sterling
House Prices
Passports
Laws
Rules

Because we all know we haven't 'hit brexit yet' Jan/Feb 2017 is when they will trigger Article 50.

They could but who knows for sure?

So house prices drop is that good or bad. Well if a seller its bad but a buyer its good. If they rise then sellers are happy but buyers aren't. Heres a question for a remainer Your house goes up in price after article 50 is triggered are you happy or sad? Your passport costs you less happy or sad?

Anyone who can predict what will happen with 100% certainty then post the winning lottery numbers for next weeks draw.

Editha Sep 17th 2016 11:37 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12054672)
Yes the Canadian dollar has fallen against the US dollar so its currency fluctuation. Yes you can argue that Brexit has forced the UK pound to dip but all currencies fluctuate. If the UK pound had fallen without the Brexit vote then it still becomes more expensive so what do you blame it on then? Its a convenient way to blame Brexit for the drop in the pound though.

Look at the graph. The £ dropped off a cliff immediately after the referendum result.

amideislas Sep 17th 2016 11:39 am

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Meteorologists predict the weather by calculating the meteorological conditions. They aren't always perfectly accurate, but they're pretty good at predicting whether it will be rainy or sunny, warm or cold.

The conditions of the UK's exit don't support a sunny and warm prediction. Even Ms. May has said that "brexit will damage the UK economy" per her comments at the summit in China at the beginning of Sept. And that alone is surprising, considering the political risks of saying that. One has to presume she's spinning that in the best possible light. She knows the conditions. And it's not going to be pretty. Best to set expectations now...

EMR Sep 17th 2016 11:46 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12054676)
They could but who knows for sure?

So house prices drop is that good or bad. Well if a seller its bad but a buyer its good. If they rise then sellers are happy but buyers aren't. Heres a question for a remainer Your house goes up in price after article 50 is triggered are you happy or sad? Your passport costs you less happy or sad?

Anyone who can predict what will happen with 100% certainty then post the winning lottery numbers for next weeks draw.

I agree with you , maybe Vex, TGA etc etc can give us the winning lottery numbers as they seem so confident about what brexit will mean.
House priced will rise if incomes and credit availability rises.
Neither looks likely in the short medium term.
How prices fall in a recession and no one wants that.
I believe that brexit in its final form will leave the ultra brexiters no happier than they were before.
The government of the UK should be and should always be focussed onwhat is best for the UK economy.
Employment, living standards and the profitability of those who manufacture, import and trade in the UK.
It is not about the colour of our passports, ending free access to the EU or ending EU and other levels of migration.
For those who are so narrow minded a migrant is a migrant it does not matter where they come from.

EMR Sep 17th 2016 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12054669)
But a lot of countries are doing the same thing. Ford USA just announced the other day that it is shifting all small car production to Mexico. Many Canadian companies have done the same so its not just a UK thing.

Is there a hypocrite running Ford pretending that he stands up for the USA.

TGA Sep 17th 2016 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12054654)
Yesterdays man

:thumbsup:

In years to come expect to see statues of this man all over Britain and Europe.

EMR Sep 17th 2016 11:55 am

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Originally Posted by TGA (Post 12054690)

An failed Election candidate and a person who admits he is finished, burn't out.
I watched the speech and to use your language pissed myself laughing.
He knows Ukip is doomed, declining membership, defections to the tory party. and that his future is probaly going to be on poor quality tv chat shows.

amideislas Sep 17th 2016 11:58 am

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Companies are going to move to where it makes the most sense for their business.

If you have attractive conditions for them to operate in, they will set up shop. If not, they'll leave. It's called "competition".

Britain currently offers an attractive proposition for automobile manufacturers and all kinds of global businesses. Customs and tax-free access to the world's largest market, in a business friendly environment with a moderate tax system. And a good labour pool from all over Europe (well, all over the world really - there is more non-EU immigration than EU immigration).


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