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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:07 pm
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He definitely shouldn't be allowed to resign - he should just have his head repeatedly shoved down the loo and told "Look at that - it's your turd"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cretary-brexit

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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:08 pm
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You've been reading Irish history again, haven't you?!!
I am actually surprised that others aren't drawing this parallel. In fact over the last two years I can't recall anyone in the media doing so.

I felt the same way about Scottish independence: the SNP should have presented Ireland as its model. The choice lay between Scotland sharing England's accrued wealth and being master of her own destiny. Ireland chose the latter and it is surely clear to anyone but the most myopic DUP member that with hindsight it would not now choose otherwise. Instead, Salmond promised cake.

As I was writing the post, I was unaware that the news of DD's resignation was breaking. You are right of course. To paraphrase Lloyd Bentson, "Minister, you're no Michael Collins." But arguably the parallel is that a pragmatic British politician should be killed by a rogue hardline British nationalist, and for that we don't need to speculate who the politician might be. It's already happened and her name was Jo Cox.
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Boris now resigns. This Brexit stuff is going so well.
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But arguably the parallel is that a pragmatic British politician should be killed by a rogue hardline British nationalist, and for that we don't need to speculate who the politician might be. It's already happened and her name was Jo Cox.
Wasn't that a neo Nazi? Or is that the same thing?
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He definitely shouldn't be allowed to resign - he should just have his head repeatedly shoved down the loo and told "Look at that - it's your turd"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cretary-brexit

HE'S GONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, well ...... I don't suppose he absolutely has to be Foreign Secretary to have his head shoved down the loo etc for it still to be a satisfactory interim measure.
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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:18 pm
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Yeah, well ...... I don't suppose he absolutely has to be Foreign Secretary to have his head shoved down the loo etc for it still to be a satisfactory interim measure.
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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:21 pm
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I am actually surprised that others aren't drawing this parallel. In fact over the last two years I can't recall anyone in the media doing so.

I felt the same way about Scottish independence: the SNP should have presented Ireland as its model. The choice lay between Scotland sharing England's accrued wealth and being master of her own destiny. Ireland chose the latter and it is surely clear to anyone but the most myopic DUP member that with hindsight it would not now choose otherwise. Instead, Salmond promised cake.

As I was writing the post, I was unaware that the news of DD's resignation was breaking. You are right of course. To paraphrase Lloyd Bentson, "Minister, you're no Michael Collins." But arguably the parallel is that a pragmatic British politician should be killed by a rogue hardline British nationalist, and for that we don't need to speculate who the politician might be. It's already happened and her name was Jo Cox.
Amen to that. My issue with the SNP is that they seem overburdened with Lallans (not unlike the Anglo-Irish). The difference is that all the fire seems to come from the Highlands, so the SNP exhibit more nationalist whingeing than action. It's hard to see any of them being prepared to break a nail for "freedom". On the other hand, I can understand a certain passion on the Brexit side, even if it is (in my view) ill-placed and rooted in ignorance. Show me the people who are prepared to sacrifice lives in every generation and I'll show you a people who deserve self-rule.
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Yeah, well ...... I don't suppose he absolutely has to be Foreign Secretary to have his head shoved down the loo etc for it still to be a satisfactory interim measure.

I assume the knives are out for May, and perhaps the resignees are in that group.
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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:24 pm
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Yeah, well ...... I don't suppose he absolutely has to be Foreign Secretary to have his head shoved down the loo etc for it still to be a satisfactory interim measure.
Excellent post. But the bastard BoJo will now mobilise the hard line Brexiters in the Conservative Party to challenge TM to a leadership vote. If he wins, he will immediately declare that despite it being his turd, it's still a load of shit and decide to abandon Brexit for ever. Game of Thrones, innit?
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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:27 pm
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Excellent post. But the bastard BoJo will now mobilise the hard line Brexiters in the Conservative Party to challenge TM to a leadership vote. If he wins, he will immediately declare that despite it being his turd, it's still a load of shit and decide to abandon Brexit for ever. Game of Thrones, innit?
Don't think (hope) there's enough support for him in the party.

I do wonder if Fox and Gove are going to stay ?

May is quickly running out of candidates

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Old Jul 9th 2018, 2:28 pm
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So, the question is, was this a "cunning plan" by May to rid herself of the Brexit hardliners. Or a total misjudgement that will come back to haunt her........(my bet is on the latter)

The second question is, will the Brexit boys now try to take up the running and how much support will they actually have.

Interesting times................. and ahead of the World Cup match too

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So, the question is, was this a "cunning plan" by may to rid herself of the Brexit hardliners. Or a total misjudgement that will come back to haunt her........

The second question is, will the Brexit boys now try to take up the running and how much support will they actually have.

Interesting times................. and ahead of the World cup match too
Next on this drama :

May speaking in the commons ....

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Excellent post. But the bastard BoJo will now mobilise the hard line Brexiters in the Conservative Party to challenge TM to a leadership vote. If he wins, he will immediately declare that despite it being his turd, it's still a load of shit and decide to abandon Brexit for ever. Game of Thrones, innit?

Looks suspiciously like Smog would be the top candidate. But surely too much of the UK would be repelled by him? Might be a gift for Labour.

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It's a real shame that at a time as crucial as this the Tory leadership are opting for petty in-fighting rather than showing a united front against the Europeans and the Russians. It's just immature and blatantly irresponsible behaviour really.
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Old Jul 9th 2018, 3:00 pm
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Well, sterling is up .3% on news of Boris' resignation.

but you can expect a wild ride as this plays out. If May gets ousted and Smog is appointed, then a cliff dive is far more likely, and that certainly means the pound tanks.

By the way, how's that Brexit thing going? Got the cake yet?
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