Red Eric

I know nothing of the sort - I just didn't want the thread getting side-tracked yet again onto your hobby-horse.

Anyway, thanks for the confirmation, you've got nothing else

amideislas

Many exhibit it. The amusing thing is that they have no clue how it looks from afar. It's like a foregone conclusion that English=superior. As if everyone sees it that way. And how could it possibly be arrogant to state the bleedin' obvious?

"We're English, my dear. Arrogance is beneath us".

DigitalGhost

I'm sure there are other examples, I just don't care to find them.

There have been reported instances of EU member states screwing each other over regarding refugees and illegal immigrants. I'm not sure how anybody could deny that at this point really.

Golden Years

The easiest example to find is that of Germany. As an economically dishonest country they have deliberately set up the euro to benefit themselves regardless of the damage done to other member states.
They were able to bully Greece into submission but they have a much bigger fight on their hands with Italy.

la mancha

As I said, we are all in the same boat as they see it, you included.

DigitalGhost

As Marcus Brigstock said, Germany found a much easier and cheaper way than taking Europe by military force. They can just buy it instead.

DaveLovesDee

The only reports I've seen of an EU member state screwing over another regarding refugees is the UK, when they agreed to take a number of refugees under the Dubs Agreement then only took a small percentage of those agreed. No sure how that's the EU's fault.

Not sure how any country in the EU can screw over another regarding illegal immigrants though? Again, nor how that's the fault of the EU itself....

Red Eric

The only screwing over was the failure to distribute the load and to expect the arrival countries to cope alone for years before what became an unmanageable crisis. As I've said before, you only have to look at a map and use your usual interpretation of the Dublin Agreement to see who was being screwed by whom.

But that's not what you're referring to and as I said, that's your hobby-horse.

As your claim was that member states are regularly stitching each other up, I'd have thought you might have had numerous examples to hand - "I'm sure there are other examples, I just don't care to find them" is a little lame.

Never mind, anyway. I rest my case - good call, wasn't it?

DaveLovesDee

Greece didn't meet all the conditions for joining the Euro, but were admitted anyway.

DigitalGhost

Which highlights a failure of the EU to follow due process surely.

DigitalGhost

No you were totally incorrect. Surely if the other Schengen countries are refusing to help out the southern border nations then that is a textbook example of the other countries screwing those southern nations over.

Red Eric

My case that you had nothing other than refugees in mind when you said the member states were regularly screwing each other over and I asked for examples.

DigitalGhost

Ah OK, so this didn't happen then?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-opens-its-gates-berlin-says-all-syrian-asylum-seekers-are-welcome-to-remain-as-britain-is-10470062.html

​​​​​In truth, many of the issues that Europe has faced with refugee influx since 2015 were created by Germany.

DaveLovesDee

I read your link as not screwing anyone over. It's about Germany offering to take refugees from other EU countries. How is that 'screwing anyone over'?

EMR

Confusing the EU with the Eutozone, you are not the first Brexiter to do that.