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Old May 20th 2018, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by DigitalGhost View Post
​​​​​​I agree but a risk is a risk regardless. The truth is that the UK shouldn't be so dependent on foreign investment anyway really. It gives foreign governments far too much power over another country's economy and creates a conflict of interest.
See, yet another Green Party policy you agree with. Are you sure you should despise a political party you are so in agreement with?

Originally Posted by Golden Years View Post
According to El Pais this week, Gibraltar has a total workforce of 24,000 with only 20 people registered as unemployed.
Those who don't transfer to Malta shouldn't have too much trouble being absorbed elsewhere,
El Pais probably needs to check it's figures then. The official quarterly average number of unemployed is 57 - As of April 2018.

Gib residents are outnumbered by workers coming across the border to start employment too. Massively outnumbered in the case of male workers.
The number of job vacancies filled so far this year by Gib residents and frontier workers.

Though doesn't their free movement end when the UK's does?
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
See, yet another Green Party policy you agree with. Are you sure you should despise a political party you are so in agreement with?
They want to increase the foreign aid budget and the number of refugees that the UK admits annually. That automatically puts them on my shit list and means I disregard pretty much everything else they say. Sorry.
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
See, yet another Green Party policy you agree with. Are you sure you should despise a political party you are so in agreement with?
El Pais probably needs to check it's figures then. The official quarterly average number of unemployed is 57 - As of April 2018.
Gib residents are outnumbered by workers coming across the border to start employment too. Massively outnumbered in the case of male workers.
The number of job vacancies filled so far this year by Gib residents and frontier workers.

Though doesn't their free movement end when the UK's does?
... Or when Spain begins to share the airport and more importantly, the access roads to it...
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Annetje View Post
And with that ''Truth'' you put an extra meter on the Brexit wall around the UK.
Originally Posted by DigitalGhost View Post
That would be great. Seriously, I would love that.
Reminds me of an old joke.

An Englishman, Scotsman and a Welshman found a genie and were each granted one wish.
The Englishman asked for a wall, 200ft high, 20ft thick, and built to be impenetrable around England to keep out the undesirables.
The genie says, "Done!"
The Scotsman says, "The wall's not high enough to keep the English out of Scotland. Make it 1,000ft high and 50ft thick".
The genie says, "Done!"
The Welshman says, "This wall, 1,000ft high and 50ft thick, and can't be broken, is it?"
The genie says, "Yes, that's right. What's your wish?"
The Welshman replies, "Fill it with water".
The genie says, "Done!"
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Reminds me of an old joke.

An Englishman, Scotsman and a Welshman found a genie and were each granted one wish.
The Englishman asked for a wall, 200ft high, 20ft thick, and built to be impenetrable around England to keep out the undesirables.
The genie says, "Done!"
The Scotsman says, "The wall's not high enough to keep the English out of Scotland. Make it 1,000ft high and 50ft thick".
The genie says, "Done!"
The Welshman says, "This wall, 1,000ft high and 50ft thick, and can't be broken, is it?"
The genie says, "Yes, that's right. What's your wish?"
The Welshman replies, "Fill it with water".
The genie says, "Done!"
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
See, yet another Green Party policy you agree with. Are you sure you should despise a political party you are so in agreement with?



El Pais probably needs to check it's figures then. The official quarterly average number of unemployed is 57 - As of April 2018.

Gib residents are outnumbered by workers coming across the border to start employment too. Massively outnumbered in the case of male workers.
The number of job vacancies filled so far this year by Gib residents and frontier workers.

Though doesn't their free movement end when the UK's does?
Maybe El Pais is quoting actual numbers as of this week?
Why would the end of free movement impact the Spanish domiciled workforce?
They have a job, they continue to do it.
Their only problem could be over zealous Spanish border controls preventing them getting to work.
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Golden Years View Post
Maybe El Pais is quoting actual numbers as of this week?
Why would the end of free movement impact the Spanish domiciled workforce?
They have a job, they continue to do it.
Their only problem could be over zealous Spanish border controls preventing them getting to work.
Isn't it the UK that wants to control their borders ? No ifs no buts ?
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Annetje View Post
Isn't it the UK that wants to control their borders ? No ifs no buts ?
Controlling borders does not mean closing borders.
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Old May 20th 2018, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Golden Years View Post
Controlling borders does not mean closing borders.

Who has said anything about closing borders, just brexit fantasy .
Remember 96% of those who voted in Gib, want status quo but the Westminster government will enforce its own decisions,

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Controlling borders does not mean closing borders.
OK, just don't blame the Spanish and / or the EU when crossing the border is getting more difficult !
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OK, just don't blame the Spanish and / or the EU when crossing the border is getting more difficult !
...Bullseye !!! And it will.
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Old May 20th 2018, 7:08 pm
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OK, just don't blame the Spanish and / or the EU when crossing the border is getting more difficult !
What on earth are you going on about?
The Spanish border control have a long history of "working to rule" and obstructing traffic into and out of Gibraltar either because of their own bloody mindedness or as a result of that of their Government.
So, after Brexit, the lawful movement of Spanish workers onto or out of the Rock could be impeded. Other than that, the fact that freedom of movement between Spain and Gibraltar would have ended should have no impact on the daily lives of those Spanish workers.
I'm not blaming anyone for anything, it was a comment about misunderstanding what the end of freedom of movement would mean from a practical perspective.
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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
BET365 are off from Gibraltar to Malta as a result of Brexit taking 1000 jobs with them.

This won't be of much concern to Brexiteers I would imagine as it doesn't really affect the UK but I have several friends who work for them in Gibraltar so it's sad for them.

Apparently the purchase contract for the property comes into force on the day the UK leaves the EU.
I read your post with interest and thought I would delve a little deeper into it.

From 11 August 2015

‘The Malta Gaming Authority (MGA) has granted a Sports Betting licence (Class 2 Remote Gaming Licence) to bet365 – Hillside (New Media Malta) Limited, a leading online gaming operator providing sports betting, casino and poker type games.’

bet365 awarded a Sports Betting licence by Malta Gaming Authority

This was nearly a year before the referendum so it clearly shows that bet365 were on the move or thinking about it even back then.

A spokesperson for bet365 said: “Due to the regulatory developments in various operating territories, bet365 decided that in addition to the remote gaming licences held by our existing operating hub in Gibraltar, a Class II licence by the Maltese Regulator was required in order to obtain and maintain certain regulatory approvals as well as to support its operations in the evolving global regulatory environment.’

Nothing about Brexit there. Of course some companies will move from Gib to nations like Malta, but Gib is not the only territory these types of companies relocate from.

https://ellulschranz.com/binance-moving-to-malta

Malta is a very good place to relocate to for these types of businesses.

As I think DG said before, a business will relocate from wherever, including the UK whether we are in the EU or not. They do not like us or anyone else. They only like to go somewhere where they can earn more money or the regulatory processes are not as stringent.
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Originally Posted by DigitalGhost View Post
Then why is it that all of the crazies Lefties I've met seem to love both Corbyn and The Guardian? I can understand that they might be odd bed fellows especially in light of the face that Corbyn is hardly pro-EU. He is in favour of installing himself as some sort of Stalinist personality cult dictator but doesn't seem to like the EU very much.
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I don't like Corbyn much. Just another out of touch politician. I know some people do, but I don't know any.
True - but although you're a reader of The Guardian (as is DG's besty, Bluey), nobody who's read your posts with due care would dream of calling you a lefty of any sort, would they? I certainly hope not - don't want us actual lefties getting a bad name

And nor, I assume, would you be daft enough to label The Guardian "Corbynite" (which is where this started out - I wasn't, on this occasion, expressing my undying love for Oh, Jeremy Corbyn, just pointing out that the claim that The Guardian is the official Corbyn mouthpiece and fan club is seriously misguided)
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
I read your post with interest and thought I would delve a little deeper into it.

From 11 August 2015

‘The Malta Gaming Authority (MGA) has granted a Sports Betting licence (Class 2 Remote Gaming Licence) to bet365 – Hillside (New Media Malta) Limited, a leading online gaming operator providing sports betting, casino and poker type games.’

bet365 awarded a Sports Betting licence by Malta Gaming Authority

This was nearly a year before the referendum so it clearly shows that bet365 were on the move or thinking about it even back then.

A spokesperson for bet365 said: “Due to the regulatory developments in various operating territories, bet365 decided that in addition to the remote gaming licences held by our existing operating hub in Gibraltar, a Class II licence by the Maltese Regulator was required in order to obtain and maintain certain regulatory approvals as well as to support its operations in the evolving global regulatory environment.’

Nothing about Brexit there. Of course some companies will move from Gib to nations like Malta, but Gib is not the only territory these types of companies relocate from.

https://ellulschranz.com/binance-moving-to-malta

Malta is a very good place to relocate to for these types of businesses.

As I think DG said before, a business will relocate from wherever, including the UK whether we are in the EU or not. They do not like us or anyone else. They only like to go somewhere where they can earn more money or the regulatory processes are not as stringent.
A lot of gambling companies now base themselves out of Malta or Gibraltar because the local authorities there let them get away with murder. I've been contacted about jobs there by agencies on a few occasions.

A few proper games companies like 4A even set up offices in Malta because it allows them to get investment visas for their top directors and potentially an EU passport. They can also pick from the local talent pool once the expats there have grown tired of selling their souls with working on crap poker apps.
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