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007Steve May 11th 2018 5:11 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12497623)
Dunno why Hannan's slithering about trying to make it look like a generous concession to remainers - it's what he wanted all along. It just adds fuel to the fire for the Breitbarters.
Interesting though, isn't it, that such a very confirmed Eurosceptic and leading Brexit campaigner has no objection whatsoever to single market membership?

.... Does he now foresee that the blame from the UK population will fall on him & his Secessionist ilk for helping to create this mess-of-a-"success" & his epiphany is an attempt to retain some future 'professional' integrity??? :blink:

Cape Blue May 11th 2018 5:16 pm

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[QUOTE=007Steve;12497509]

Originally Posted by 007Steve
.... It depends whether they'll be able to afford UK food prices @+15 to 20% above current; additional taxes to prop-up the UK Treasury after this 'temporary-soft-spot' announced today, PLUS their energy billls.... notice how the Secessionists always mumble something incoherent about 'market forces' whenever they get cornered about that......[/QUOTE]


It's truly another world !!! - Did you attend that three day Flat Earth Conference in Birmingham - is that it ?
How do food prices go down when (as much as 20% depending on commodity) of the final till sale are energy costs in processing, packaging & onward transport to the point of sale???? As I posted above - incoherence

I realise this sort of stuff is mostly beyond your intellect, however we will help the Europeans by agreeing an FTA with them and therefore EU imports will continue tariff-free, we will then also be free to reduce tariffs to non-EU imports that currently suffer the high EU tariffs - hence overall food will become cheaper. Stick to the Beano from now on.

Cape Blue May 11th 2018 5:18 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12497511)
After the years of resistance and the howls of protest about the watered-down version of the Working Time Directive when it finally got through :rofl::rofl::rofl:

It's right at the top of the list for the Brexiter elites post Brexit.

The working time directive has nothing to do with safety etc, it is more a facet of socialism and big-government intervention in people's lives.

SultanOfSwing May 11th 2018 5:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497728)
... my posts are not comprised of ... ad-hom.


Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497737)
I realise this sort of stuff is mostly beyond your intellect ...

Hmm ...

DaveLovesDee May 11th 2018 5:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497728)
There is no irony as my posts are not comprised of pedantry and ad-hom.

Really! You regularly state that your ad-homs are because you're joining in with the ones you claim we are always making.


Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497739)
The working time directive has nothing to do with safety etc, it is more a facet of socialism and big-government intervention in people's lives.

The Working-Time Directive restricts the number of hours per week, averaged over a specified period of time, that employees can legally be contracted to work without the employee's express written agreement.

Red Eric May 11th 2018 6:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497739)
The working time directive has nothing to do with safety etc, it is more a facet of socialism and big-government intervention in people's lives.

Of course it has but that wasn't the point anyway.

What I was responding to was what you highlighted of DLD's post, ie including "the Working Time Directive, the Agency Workers' Directive and a large number of others" and replied to by asking why it was that the UK wouldn't have enacted them. If you weren't including those in your question maybe you shouldn't have highlighted them.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. They weren't included because socialism. And presumably you agree that they should go along with any other employee protection. That's exactly what Brexit's all about, isn't it? I suppose you're right behind Leadsom in her drive to abolish maternity leave too.

macliam May 11th 2018 6:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497739)
The working time directive has nothing to do with safety etc, it is more a facet of socialism and big-government intervention in people's lives.

Right, because it's perfectly alright for someone to be expected to work 60 hours a week when their contact is for 40. About as alright as not paying someone for "waiting time" on a zero hours contract, but also not allowing them to do any other paid work - or how about using kids of 10 to make shoes?? Unlike in France, the WTD does not enforce a maximum number of hours that can be worked, or fiscally deter anyone from working extra, but it offers protection to the individual by constraining the employer.

There are time when "big-government intervention in people's lives" is welcome - like when it protects the individual from the profiteering or intimidation - and if you consider such protection as "a facet of socialism", then your own politics are more than dubious.

Red Eric May 11th 2018 6:41 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497728)
There is no irony as my posts are not comprised of pedantry and ad-hom.

It all depends on what you call pedantry. You don't like it if picked up on inexactitude but you're perfectly happy to jump on others for it.

As for the ad homs don't be a pillock. There's one or more in just about every post of yours. Wankchops.

DaveLovesDee May 11th 2018 6:48 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12497776)
Of course it has but that wasn't the point anyway.

What I was responding to was what you highlighted of DLD's post, ie including "the Working Time Directive, the Agency Workers' Directive and a large number of others" and replied to by asking why it was that the UK wouldn't have enacted them. If you weren't including those in your question maybe you shouldn't have highlighted them.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. They weren't included because socialism. And presumably you agree that they should go along with any other employee protection. That's exactly what Brexit's all about, isn't it? I suppose you're right behind Leadsom in her drive to abolish maternity leave too.

I'm happy that someone made a law preventing my employer from forcing me to work excessive hours It would be nice if my government stopped raising the pension age to avoid paying out my pension at the end of my working life though. Especially as manual labour and low-skilled jobs are more physically-demanding than working in an office environment.

amideislas May 11th 2018 7:12 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12497789)
It all depends on what you call pedantry. You don't like it if picked up on inexactitude but you're perfectly happy to jump on others for it.

As for the ad homs don't be a pillock. There's one or more in just about every post of yours. Wankchops.

I reckon he either suffers from "Trump disease" or just does it as part of a trolling strategy.

jimenato May 11th 2018 8:22 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 12497728)
There is no irony as my posts are not comprised of pedantry and ad-hom.

...do not comprise...

DaveLovesDee May 11th 2018 8:39 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12497828)
...do not comprise...

He'll add you to his pedant file.

SultanOfSwing May 11th 2018 9:58 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12497833)
... pedant file.

Ummm ...

Annetje May 11th 2018 10:20 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12497871)
Ummm ...

Well said :nod:

007Steve May 12th 2018 8:28 am

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SultanOfSwing
Re: Post EU Referendum
Quote: Originally Posted by Cape Blue https://britishexpats.com/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif... my posts are not comprised of ... ad-hom.
Quote: Originally Posted by Cape Blue https://britishexpats.com/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gifI realise this sort of stuff is mostly beyond your intellect ...


Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12497747)
Hmm ...

... I asked him a specific question, twice SoS. 1st response was evasion; 2nd response was irrelevance with ridicule. He can't answer the point without showing that his views are founded on the faith of his schoolboy conceit.. Cornered again....:nod: :nod: :nod:


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