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No worries. If immigrants aren't already "illegal", the rest of them will be soon. And they'll all be forced to work for less than minimum wage. Have faith. We're English.



And soooo many questions spring to mind now, where to start.
Anyway, I don't think CB and Manch were talking about them. They claim the EU (legal) workers are bringing wages down.
My question was very simple : Do they bring down the minimum wage ? Didn't get an answer.
I also asked why Brits don't do those jobs at minimum wage. Not really an answer neither.
Now it seems the problem is non-EU illegal immigration.



Can anyone bring any sense into this confusing business ?

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The UK has illegal immigrants working below minimum wage ..... right 
And soooo many questions spring to mind now, where to start.
Anyway, I don't think CB and Manch were talking about them. They claim the EU (legal) workers are bringing wages down.
My question was very simple : Do they bring down the minimum wage ? Didn't get an answer.
I also asked why Brits don't do those jobs at minimum wage. Not really an answer neither.
Now it seems the problem is non-EU illegal immigration.


Can anyone bring any sense into this confusing business ?

And soooo many questions spring to mind now, where to start.
Anyway, I don't think CB and Manch were talking about them. They claim the EU (legal) workers are bringing wages down.
My question was very simple : Do they bring down the minimum wage ? Didn't get an answer.
I also asked why Brits don't do those jobs at minimum wage. Not really an answer neither.
Now it seems the problem is non-EU illegal immigration.



Can anyone bring any sense into this confusing business ?
However, if you are simply looking for an opening to make "clever" remarks at other peoples expense then I'll not waste my time.


My thinking is : they don't earn much so must be on minimum wage.
How can they bring down minimum wage. I just don't see the logic.
This min wage is set by the Government as are the benefits.
The story is that Brits don't want to do the EU people jobs because they find the wages too low.
My thinking here is : Benefits must pay better than min wage, otherwise they would take the job.
Does the Government pay too much benefit ?
And now you throw in the illegals working below min wage.
I do realize any country has illegal workers and bosses taking advantage, but surely we're talking exceptions here and NOT the rule.
Here I am, confused.com ...

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Don't waste your time. They're using logic. And they're not stupid enough to miss your deflection. Best to just leave it alone.

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They work for business that are in the grey or black economy and have an insignificant if even any measurable effect on averages wages.
A restaurant or shop employing a few illegals letting them live in a room above their business will probably not be in the market for legal employees, migrant or non migrant even at minimum wage.
What makes you think illegal migrants have any effect on wage levels .


I am interested in someone explaining to me how it is that EU workers bring down wages.
My thinking is : they don't earn much so must be on minimum wage.
How can they bring down minimum wage. I just don't see the logic.
This min wage is set by the Government as are the benefits.
The story is that Brits don't want to do the EU people jobs because they find the wages too low.
My thinking here is : Benefits must pay better than min wage, otherwise they would take the job.
Does the Government pay too much benefit ?
Here I am, confused.com ...
My thinking is : they don't earn much so must be on minimum wage.
How can they bring down minimum wage. I just don't see the logic.
This min wage is set by the Government as are the benefits.
The story is that Brits don't want to do the EU people jobs because they find the wages too low.
My thinking here is : Benefits must pay better than min wage, otherwise they would take the job.
Does the Government pay too much benefit ?
Here I am, confused.com ...
I've explained it to you and the others many times, I can't help it if you still don't understand these basic economic principles.

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It deserves nothing more than to sit along side the similar UKIP claims ,Express and Mail headlines.
If you are happy to keep company with them then that's your decision.

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What no one with any sense and logic understands is Your constant references to imported millions, reserve pool blah blah.
It deserves nothing more than to sit along side the similar UKIP claims ,Express and Mail headlines.
If you are happy to keep company with them then that's your decision.
It deserves nothing more than to sit along side the similar UKIP claims ,Express and Mail headlines.
If you are happy to keep company with them then that's your decision.

All he wants to do is keep posting the same economic & social kant in support of his warped views, in the hope that he's seen as some kind of 'moderate' while others are just fools or ignorant. I doubt he's ever held any sort of responsible job - whatever he claims; - people just wouldn't be prepared to work with him.


How do they bring down the minimum wage ???

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I have been asking this question for a while and never get an answer.
I do believe that less employees will push wages up (with the risk of companies having to close down) but having a choice of employees does NOT bring down the minimum wage.
IT CAN'T ...
I also asked why Brits don't do these jobs and there NO ANSWER yet again.
It's time our so called ''Remainer'' explains his thinking (or lack of).
Very well to sit on a high horse looking down at people, but a bit of logical normal conversation every now and then would be nice.

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He is living in his own little bubble, believing whatever suits him.
I have been asking this question for a while and never get an answer.
I do believe that less employees will push wages up (with the risk of companies having to close down) but having a choice of employees does NOT bring down the minimum wage.
IT CAN'T ...
I also asked why Brits don't do these jobs and there NO ANSWER yet again.
It's time our so called ''Remainer'' explains his thinking (or lack of).
Very well to sit on a high horse looking down at people, but a bit of logical normal conversation every now and then would be nice.
I have been asking this question for a while and never get an answer.
I do believe that less employees will push wages up (with the risk of companies having to close down) but having a choice of employees does NOT bring down the minimum wage.
IT CAN'T ...
I also asked why Brits don't do these jobs and there NO ANSWER yet again.
It's time our so called ''Remainer'' explains his thinking (or lack of).
Very well to sit on a high horse looking down at people, but a bit of logical normal conversation every now and then would be nice.
