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Vexcore Sep 12th 2016 6:08 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12050247)
Vexcore allegedly lives nearby. Maybe he could stand as a candidate!

Come for a pint sometime,



Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12050270)
Well at least he wouldn't need a megaphone. There's a savings right there.

!! I THOUGHT I WAS LOUD ENOUGH CAN YOU HEAR ME!?!??!???? :lol:

amideislas Sep 12th 2016 6:20 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12050263)
Quote from your ‘spectacular’ headline: ‘Britain has become “completely lost” post Brexit and can eventually be expected to “plead” for a deal when it realises the weakness of its position at the negotiating table, senior European Commission officials now believe.’

Senior European Commission officials? Names, anyone? No, I didn’t see any, either.

Another quote from your game-changing headline: ‘The spectacle of Mrs May rebuking David Davis, the Brexit minister, at Prime Minister's Questions for prematurely revealing the government’s hand was taken as further evidence in Brussels that Downing Street does not have a coherent strategy for Brexit, according to one Commission insider.’

What did I say: good cop, bad cop? And some splits within the EU won't do us any harm. It seems senior Commission insiders are just as gullible as some posters on here.

I would like to add another quote from this article.

“Member states aren't on the same page following Brexit, and the Commission clearly sees this space and wants to exploit it for its own ends, to push its agenda,” said Mujtaba Rahman, managing director for Europe at the Eurasia Group risk consultancy. “It's a high risk strategy, and is likely to fail, further alienating Juncker from the member states.”

It's not my headline. It's the Telegraph's

amideislas Sep 12th 2016 6:26 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12050256)
Why should the UK stop buying European goods? None of these are my words.

Who said that?

There again why would the UK be restricted to a market of 65 million, as you so often say? Just out of curiosity why would Europe stop buying British products? Is there a plan to ban UK imports post-Brexit? I haven’t heard.

I have said that Eurozone nations are getting worried that they may lose sales to the UK if we do not have access to the single market. If you scroll around the internet, as you are so apt at doing, you will find many references to this. There is no denying the fact that Eurozone exporters are very worried at the prospect of EU bureaucrats selling them out for their own ideological fantasies. Thus their fears.

Regarding Mallorca, you have read my post wrongly. I, or rather Mallorcan businessmen, are not referring to tourism but to the export of goods to the UK. More than two hundred export businesses will be affected. Nothing to do with tourism. Exporters.

Your narrative expressed fear of losing exports to Britain. I ask why would Britain would stop buying European goods. The UK is dependent upon them.

British exports to Europe are small, and Europe is hardly dependent upon them. Excepting of course, financial services, but they're moving to the continent anyway.

The population of the UK is about 65 million. As long as the UK is a member of the single market, it represents a market of 500 million, and a GDP of about $16 trillion (and growing).

Outside the single market the UK represents a market of 65 million with a GDP of just under $3 trillion (and falling).

This is how it is. I apologise if you don't like it, but it's not under my control.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 12th 2016 6:45 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
It's not rocket science, Ami.

The stats clearly show that the EU needs us, a hell of a lot more than we need them.

Disrupt the trade for a few weeks and there'd be millions more in the EU dole queues stretching from the Arctic to the Med, with close on a million out of a job in Germany alone.

I know they're not the sharpest pencils in the box, but I don't see the fat cats in Brussels risking their necks there.

The fearmongering campaign failed dismally Ami,
and Disgraced Dodgy Dave has skulked off with his tail between his legs.

Get used to it. :cool:

paulry Sep 12th 2016 6:48 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12050058)
GeniB I suggest you read paulry's post when you are in a better frame of mind

+1

Nearly all the remainiacs seem to have gone loopy since they lost the referendum. I reckon it's a new medical phenomenon. How about "Post Brexit Denialist Blues" or "PBDB" for short? :unsure:

Vexcore Sep 12th 2016 6:49 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12050338)
+1

Nearly all the remainiacs seem to have gone loopy since they lost the referendum. How about "Post Brexit Denialist Blues" or "PBDB" for short? :unsure:

+2 :lol:

SultanOfSwing Sep 12th 2016 6:51 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12050338)
+1

Nearly all the remainiacs seem to have gone loopy since they lost the referendum. I reckon it's a new medical phenomenon. How about "Post Brexit Denialist Blues" or "PBDB" for short? :unsure:

How about you wait for Brexit to actually happen before you talk about post-anything.

Jesus, talk about delusion?

amideislas Sep 12th 2016 6:52 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
Actually, Dick, the basic indisputable facts clearly show that not only does the UK need the single market (desperately), but that the new government, having now the benefit of being shown the reality, are systematically downsizing all the promises and expectations they set in the campaign. They're simply undeliverable. It's all down to damage control now.

paulry Sep 12th 2016 6:54 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12050344)
How about you wait for Brexit to actually happen before you talk about post-anything.

Jesus, talk about delusion?

:rolleyes: Okay, just for you:

"Post Brexit Vote Denialist Blues": "PBVDB".

Lion in Winter Sep 12th 2016 6:55 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12050344)
How about you wait for Brexit to actually happen before you talk about post-anything.

Jesus, talk about delusion?

We could commission a psychiatric study of this entire thread. Plenty of material here.

Not even Theresa May knows what any Brexit might look like at the moment. How come some people on BE already do? I'm pretty sure there's a conspiracy right there.

EMR Sep 12th 2016 6:58 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12050338)
+1

Nearly all the remainiacs seem to have gone loopy since they lost the referendum. I reckon it's a new medical phenomenon. How about "Post Brexit Denialist Blues" or "PBDB" for short? :unsure:

Brexit what Brexit, has it not reached you in the bush that the UK is still a member with a government showing no inclination to start the process of leaving.
Why? because it still has no idea what brexit will actually mean.

The only ones getting their chinese made knickers in a twist are the extreme brexiters who think that turning the clock back to 1973 is not enough, maybe even 1953 would be to advanced for their views on trade and the UKs position in the world.

SultanOfSwing Sep 12th 2016 6:59 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12050349)
:rolleyes: Okay, just for you:

"Post Brexit Vote Denialist Blues": "PBVDB".

Inhabiting reality isn't a hobby of yours, is it?

Nobody is denying that the vote went in favour of Brexit. A few are questioning exactly what 'Brexit' means though, which is something the snake oil salesmen who pushed for it in the first place weren't able to answer before they shuffled off to new things.


Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12050351)
We could commission a psychiatric study of this entire thread. Plenty of material here.

Not even Theresa May knows what any Brexit might look like at the moment. How come some people on BE already do? I'm pretty sure there's a conspiracy right there.

It's becoming rather like a cult.

amideislas Sep 12th 2016 7:04 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12050355)
Inhabiting reality isn't a hobby of yours, is it?

Nobody is denying that the vote went in favour of Brexit. A few are questioning exactly what 'Brexit' means though, which is something the snake oil salesmen who pushed for it in the first place weren't able to answer before they shuffled off to new things.



It's becoming rather like a cult.

Yeah, but brexit is brexit.

SultanOfSwing Sep 12th 2016 7:05 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12050361)
Yeah, but brexit is brexit.

I keep forgetting that.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 12th 2016 7:07 pm

re: Post EU Referendum
 
One thing is very clear, the Remoaners immediate post Referendum predictions have been shot to pieces.

They might well have been expected to crawl under the nearest stone to hide their heads in shame, but no, believe it or believe it not, they're still churning out the same old crap.

Having been so wide of the mark with their fearmongering predictions up to now, I'd be more inclined to consult Gypsy Rose Lee, than swallow any more of the like minded garbage they're still posting on here.

:cool:


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