Post EU Referendum
Jan 31st 2018, 7:45 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by jetsam1
Would be nice. But soon I hope not to liable for a penny to the HMRC (cutting my ties to the UK as we speak). I don't think in 35 or 40 or whatever years time I will get a state pension as they will probably take it away so **** 'em. I will also make sure I never earn enough to pay back any of my student loan. So maybe just 20% on some bank interest or so. As all my income will be earned in Hungary very soon that will be that.
My plan if I was still in the UK would be to drop dead by my mid 60s at the latest. I think I would have had enough by that point.
My plan if I was still in the UK would be to drop dead by my mid 60s at the latest. I think I would have had enough by that point.
Jan 31st 2018, 7:48 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
No, there's two years to prepare. Britain England can legally "leave" tomorrow if it wants. Nothing in the way.
So, what is the problem? Leave, then. Or is there something else youwant need?
So, what is the problem? Leave, then. Or is there something else you
Jan 31st 2018, 7:49 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Man, an-caps make me laugh, they really do. Jesus Christ, these people need to grow up, pay their taxes and be a functioning member of a society. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
When I was working in oil I did go over into the next tax band a few times and it didn't bother me. Same as now in Hungary we have an accountant to make sure we get it right! Happy to contribute!
You know, I'm glad I don't live in the Old Wild West (though I understand they did have to form some kind of functioning law and order even before the official US Governemtn came in just to function), I like the rule of law and I resent those who try to avoid the responsibilities that come with existing. Libertarians rely on so many other people through their lives that it is amusing the myth of the self reliant sovereign citizen keeps traction.
Anyway, digression. Putin is still laughing his nuts off I presume.
Jan 31st 2018, 7:55 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by jetsam1
I have never begrudged paying my taxes. I have met libertarians from the USA and I just don't understand them. Wrapping themselves in the flag and then refusing to pay for its upkeep.......
When I was working in oil I did go over into the next tax band a few times and it didn't bother me. Same as now in Hungary we have an accountant to make sure we get it right! Happy to contribute!
You know, I'm glad I don't live in the Old Wild West (though I understand they did have to form some kind of functioning law and order even before the official US Governemtn came in just to function), I like the rule of law and I resent those who try to avoid the responsibilities that come with existing. Libertarians rely on so many other people through their lives that it is amusing the myth of the self reliant sovereign citizen keeps traction.
When I was working in oil I did go over into the next tax band a few times and it didn't bother me. Same as now in Hungary we have an accountant to make sure we get it right! Happy to contribute!
You know, I'm glad I don't live in the Old Wild West (though I understand they did have to form some kind of functioning law and order even before the official US Governemtn came in just to function), I like the rule of law and I resent those who try to avoid the responsibilities that come with existing. Libertarians rely on so many other people through their lives that it is amusing the myth of the self reliant sovereign citizen keeps traction.
**** it though, I pay my taxes and I've yet to die horribly, or whatever they thing is going to happen.
Originally Posted by jetsam1
Anyway, digression. Putin is still laughing his nuts off I presume.
Jan 31st 2018, 7:59 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by morpeth
I would think any objective observer would come to the conclusion that there might be a completely different outcome today in a referendum on Brexit, especially as it does appear that what people thought they were voting for is not what they may end up getting. How is it undemocratic to ask the people their preference ? I agree one cant be having referendums all the time, but why would someone who voted for Brexit be so afraid of another vote- surely the pubic is now more informed than it was when the referendum was held ?
Places like here and The Guardian are bubble-world, full of upset remainers wanting a do-over. Try the Daily Mail if you want to see an opposite bubble.
What if the next vote does go remain, do we get a "best of three"?
Many people argue that a failure of the first referendum was that it hinged on a 50:50 split and it should have a higher hurdle, perhaps 60% to make a change - should this next referendum have the benefit of this hindsight and require a 60% vote to change our current status quo of leave back to rejoin?
I wasn't in UK when the referendum was held, and if anything - probably from an emotional standpoint - probably leaned towards Brexit. After a reading many of the comments on this thread, I probably lean against it- in particular I worry once Brexit occurs and those supporting it realize it wont realize the objectives they had in voting for that, there may end up a difficult political impact on such voters. Just anecdotal evidence, but probably a full third of Brexit voters I speak to voted for it expecting results that surely Brexit won't deliver.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:02 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Red Eric
The Brexit dividend? 
Jan 31st 2018, 8:03 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Expatrick
Does that mean that I (as a resident of Hungary) can demand that my taxes (taken by the UK) be spent on Hungarians rather than on "foreigners" in a foreign country?
No, I thought not.
No, I thought not.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:05 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Perhaps another objective observer would come to the conclusion that there would be no change - we have not had the predicted house price collapse, emergency budget, additional 800,000 unemployed from the Remain team that may have influenced many voters.
Places like here and The Guardian are bubble-world, full of upset remainers wanting a do-over. Try the Daily Mail if you want to see an opposite bubble.
What if the next vote does go remain, do we get a "best of three"?
Many people argue that a failure of the first referendum was that it hinged on a 50:50 split and it should have a higher hurdle, perhaps 60% to make a change - should this next referendum have the benefit of this hindsight and require a 60% vote to change our current status quo of leave back to rejoin?
Who are you to say that Brexit won't deliver and that brexit voters won't be able to handle it if it doesn't? Sounds like you think you know more than brexiters and they need to be protected from their idiocy by having your benevolent rule? Is that a democracy?
Places like here and The Guardian are bubble-world, full of upset remainers wanting a do-over. Try the Daily Mail if you want to see an opposite bubble.
What if the next vote does go remain, do we get a "best of three"?
Many people argue that a failure of the first referendum was that it hinged on a 50:50 split and it should have a higher hurdle, perhaps 60% to make a change - should this next referendum have the benefit of this hindsight and require a 60% vote to change our current status quo of leave back to rejoin?
Who are you to say that Brexit won't deliver and that brexit voters won't be able to handle it if it doesn't? Sounds like you think you know more than brexiters and they need to be protected from their idiocy by having your benevolent rule? Is that a democracy?
The only thing left is damage control. And that's s big task. Especially for a wholly incompetent leadership.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:05 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
No, there's two years to prepare. Britain England can legally "leave" tomorrow if it wants. Nothing in the way.
So, what is the problem? Leave, then. Or is there something else youwant need?
So, what is the problem? Leave, then. Or is there something else you
Wales voted leave, near 40% of Scotland voted leave.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:07 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
If you are resident in Hungary, why are you paying UK tax?
Jan 31st 2018, 8:07 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
I thought Britain England was leaving(?). Then why not just send a letter saying "we're out...starting today"? What's the problem? Or do you want need something else? Or maybe hadn't thought through it?
'cos the Chaps in the City, will befoul their pants silly at being shut-out of the EU markets, AND more specifically, being unable to wash all that dirty money via the Euro-Bond market onto places like Jersey, the Caribbean, Gibraltar, Malta, Cyprus (North & South), Turks & Cacos, etc, etc....As you know amideislas, when you're a JAM on minimum wage & barely scraping a living, it poses a huge problem....
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Jan 31st 2018, 8:08 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Expatrick
Absolutely right. Time Britain was told to "do one", no negotiations, no deals, no concessions, excluded, permanently, completely.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:08 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by amideislas
Brexit can't deliver what was promised because what was promised is undeliverable. But that's not exactly news.
The only thing left is damage control. And that's s big task. Especially for a wholly incompetent leadership.
The only thing left is damage control. And that's s big task. Especially for a wholly incompetent leadership.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:10 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Do you think the Britain England thing is clever or amusing or something?
Wales voted leave, near 40% of Scotland voted leave.
Wales voted leave, near 40% of Scotland voted leave.
Jan 31st 2018, 8:12 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Cape Blue
If you are resident in Hungary, why are you paying UK tax?
