Post EU Referendum
Nov 30th 2017, 12:21 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Red Eric
Monte Python - is that the EU version?
Nov 30th 2017, 12:24 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Bipat
As the numbers involved in the poll are a larger percentage of the population concerned than other polls they are possibly more accurate.
I wondered at the time how the poll was carried out.
It was titled Poll of the 'Desi' population of the UK--which includes all from the sub-continent not just Indian people.
These are the largest group of migrant origin people in the UK.
A large number of these people have small businesses in the UK and would favour leave to escape EU bureaucracy, those in 'big' business are divided in opinion see links in 'apartheid' thread.
I wondered at the time how the poll was carried out.
It was titled Poll of the 'Desi' population of the UK--which includes all from the sub-continent not just Indian people.
These are the largest group of migrant origin people in the UK.
A large number of these people have small businesses in the UK and would favour leave to escape EU bureaucracy, those in 'big' business are divided in opinion see links in 'apartheid'
thread.Didn't know there was an apartheid thread and why does that deserve a LOL ???
Nov 30th 2017, 12:26 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Annetje
Talking project fear, have you seen the daily mail brainwashing anti-EU anti-immigration headlines ... not just for months but for years ?
I believe the last push was the ''Farage poster'' combined with the ''Bojo Bus''.
I believe the last push was the ''Farage poster'' combined with the ''Bojo Bus''.
Ask any leave voter and they will confirm this 🦄🦄🦄
Nov 30th 2017, 12:33 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by EMR
But as you know We Brits were not influenced by any of this but voted only because of an in depth analysis of the EU treaties , by the role of the ECJ and the knowledge that the UK economy was being hamstrung by its inability to trade with the rest off the world because the EU has not let's us for over 40 years.🦄🦄🦄
Ask any leave voter and they will confirm this 🦄🦄🦄
Ask any leave voter and they will confirm this 🦄🦄🦄
Nov 30th 2017, 12:37 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Garbatellamike
I think both sides behaved disgracefully but I have to confess how our political class behave is always likely to disappoint me as I seem to have unrealistic aspirations about honesty and integrity.
Farage knew this, no wonder he was always smiling, he was pocketing thousands in EU payments to push his own obnoxious views and abusing their tolerance - yet people were queueing up to kiss his donkey!
The politicians have no respect for the electorate - and the electorate don't disappoint them.
Nov 30th 2017, 12:39 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Garbatellamike
Life of Brian
Nov 30th 2017, 1:20 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by EMR
But as you know We Brits were not influenced by any of this but voted only because of an in depth analysis of the EU treaties , by the role of the ECJ and the knowledge that the UK economy was being hamstrung by its inability to trade with the rest off the world because the EU has not let's us for over 40 years.🦄🦄🦄
Ask any leave voter and they will confirm this 🦄🦄🦄
Ask any leave voter and they will confirm this 🦄🦄🦄
Nov 30th 2017, 1:26 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Annetje
You did NOT convince me that this was a believable poll ...
Didn't know there was an apartheid thread and why does that deserve a LOL ???
Didn't know there was an apartheid thread and why does that deserve a LOL ???
The 'other' Post EU Referendum thread, where posts regarding an important non-EU country and (source of UK investment and job creation) are segregated.
The smilie was to indicate--that I find it humerous with all this talk of 'leaver' Xenophobia!
Nov 30th 2017, 1:50 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Bipat
There were people who voted for many different reasons on both Remain and Leave sides ---or didn't vote at all.
The extra money is the membership fee!
We don't know yet what the outcome of negotiations will be or which reasons for voting leave will be met or not met.
The extra money is the membership fee!
We don't know yet what the outcome of negotiations will be or which reasons for voting leave will be met or not met.
Nov 30th 2017, 1:54 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Bipat
Why were you not convinced?
The 'other' Post EU Referendum thread, where posts regarding an important non-EU country and (source of UK investment and job creation) are segregated.
The smilie was to indicate--that I find it humerous with all this talk of 'leaver' Xenophobia!
The 'other' Post EU Referendum thread, where posts regarding an important non-EU country and (source of UK investment and job creation) are segregated.
The smilie was to indicate--that I find it humerous with all this talk of 'leaver' Xenophobia!
Extremely strange sort of humour to call a thread about India a thread about apartheid ! If I want to talk about the trade between the UK and France (and in dept like you tend to do) I would be honoured to get my own thread about it. Nothing to do with xenophobia !
I think we have discussed you obsession with non-existent ''leaver xenophobia'' before so let's just leave that one there.
Nov 30th 2017, 1:59 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Bipat
...all this talk of 'leaver' Xenophobia!
Nov 30th 2017, 2:00 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Red Eric
Depends on what you're prepared to defend as a legitimate means of getting one's way. For me, the Leave side very obviously overstepped boundaries and I'd have said that loud and clear even if I'd been a supporter of their ultimate aim.
Two questions: do you think Cameron and Corbyn’s team ran a campaign free of threats and disinformation, and do you think Project Fear (which is what it was) was worse or better or on the same level as the Leave campaign?
Nov 30th 2017, 2:03 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Red Eric
The talk is currently about cynical manipulation of people susceptible to persuasion by the misuse of images and blatant distortion of facts, rather than an out-amd-out accusation that all Leavers are innately xenophobic. And it can hardly be denied that the public mood on almost any topic can be altered remarkably quickly, given one-sided saturation coverage. It happens frequently.
Nov 30th 2017, 2:04 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by la mancha
Remain ran a poisonous campaign unashamedly using misinformation and disinformation while threatening everyone from the elderly to the young with everything from no care workers to unemployment to World War Three. I will not go through their toxic premonitions so don’t ask me. If you think Cameron and Corbyn did not overstep the mark then you and I have different views on the matter. This is just sour grapes on your part. Leave voters looked at the Remain lies and misinformation and saw through it. One must give them credit for that.
Two questions: do you think Cameron and Corbyn’s team ran a campaign free of threats and disinformation, and do you think Project Fear (which is what it was) was worse or better or on the same level as the Leave campaign?
Two questions: do you think Cameron and Corbyn’s team ran a campaign free of threats and disinformation, and do you think Project Fear (which is what it was) was worse or better or on the same level as the Leave campaign?
Your question has been answered multiple times.
Nov 30th 2017, 2:11 pm
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Re: Post EU Referendum
Originally Posted by Annetje
Just because I am not convinced that a poll done by an Indian newspaper is any more accurate than a UK government poll. You believe what you want to believe but don't call it ''Proof'' ...
Extremely strange sort of humour to call a thread about India a thread about apartheid ! If I want to talk about the trade between the UK and France (and in dept like you tend to do) I would be honoured to get my own thread about it. Nothing to do with xenophobia !
I think we have discussed you obsession with non-existent ''leaver xenophobia'' before so let's just leave that one there.
Extremely strange sort of humour to call a thread about India a thread about apartheid ! If I want to talk about the trade between the UK and France (and in dept like you tend to do) I would be honoured to get my own thread about it. Nothing to do with xenophobia !
I think we have discussed you obsession with non-existent ''leaver xenophobia'' before so let's just leave that one there.
No poll is completely accurate, it is only a sample of people. However there are other indications that this group are divided in much the same way as the rest of the UK.
The posts in the other thread were removed with a sense of 'displeasure'. I was surprised that Shard's question above was not transferred.
Why not start a thread about trade with France and UK/ French relationships? I for one would be pleased to read and take part in it.
