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Old Nov 29th 2017, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
The vote was for staying in or leaving the EU. It was last year. It is done. When will you people give it up?
When there's nothing of interest left to discuss. If you're finding this bit tedious, you can always duck out for a while.

What's troubling you about it, anyway? You people seem extraordinarily anxious about allowing debate. Bit rich after your whingeathon.
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 9:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
I am quoting the official leave campaign.
Why did non-EU origin migrants vote in the same proportions? There is poll evidence of that!
Afraid of EU migrants probably ... (same proportions to what ?)

And why were EU migrants and Expats not allow to vote ?
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
The vote was for staying in or leaving the EU. It was last year. It is done. When will you people give it up?
I don't suppose you'd like to elaborate on precisely what is done?

To my mind it's the whole stupid...(I was going to say idea but that would be flattery).
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
The vote was for staying in or leaving the EU. It was last year. It is done. When will you people give it up?
Are you happy the way it is going so far ?
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Red Eric View Post
No, clearly not.

I'm saying that you, who continually pick people up for doing something you don't like, are doing it yourself.

Just pointing it out in case you didn't realise.

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I answer posters that I disagree with, in this case Morpeth.
Are you saying people didn't vote for "controlled immigration", and "not free movement from 27 countries." My words.
Apart from a minority of far right groups--do you really believe millions want all "foreigners sent home"?
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
I am quoting the official leave campaign.
Why did non-EU origin migrants vote in the same proportions? There is poll evidence of that!
And you think the people listened to and voted based upon what the official leave campaign said?
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
The vote was for staying in or leaving the EU. It was last year. It is done. When will you people give it up?
Can you have a word with Bipat? She keeps saying it was about all sorts of things.
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:07 pm
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Listen up, people, I am very happy the way things are going. We are leaving the EU. It is what I voted for and it will happen. Nothing is troubling me and I am not anxious, but you call this a debate? It is one big Remainer egotistical piss-taking smiley-faced whingefest. A debate? Give over.
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:07 pm
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If it's "done", then why isn't it "done"?
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Originally Posted by Annetje View Post
Afraid of EU migrants probably ... (same proportions to what ?)

And why were EU migrants and Expats not allow to vote ?
Why do you think they are "probably afraid of EU migrants"?

The same remain/leave proportion--a small majority for leave.

I believe expats living abroad for up to 15 years were allowed to vote.
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:25 pm
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Why do you think they are "probably afraid of EU migrants"?

The same remain/leave proportion--a small majority for leave.

I believe expats living abroad for up to 15 years were allowed to vote.
Off topic question Bipat (as I think you are Indian?)...is Divali both a new year celebration and a marriage match making time? There was a recent program on TV, and a bit where a father searched the web for 'Divali' to find marriage prospects for his daughter. Confused me a little...?
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:43 pm
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Off topic question Bipat (as I think you are Indian?)...is Divali both a new year celebration and a marriage match making time? There was a recent program on TV, and a bit where a father searched the web for 'Divali' to find marriage prospects for his daughter. Confused me a little...?
I am British (Just OCI by spouse reasons).
No Diwali---is 'festival of light'--'good over evil' etc.
Only a match making time in the sense that Christmas might also be with all the good times and parties etc.

(Has become just a time of spend/spend on presents etc. as has Christmas and Thanksgiving.)
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Why do you think they are "probably afraid of EU migrants"?

The same remain/leave proportion--a small majority for leave.

I believe expats living abroad for up to 15 years were allowed to vote.
How do you know that ?
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
The vote was for controlled immigration according to need not free movement from just 27 countries. Those EU immigrants ( already in the country are not going to be sent home wherever they originate from, that was never an option).

"Emotional desire"--to have your own country law supreme? Not in the future to be part of a type of Federation?--See the draft Constitution---abandoned but Lisbon Treaty more or less the same (discussed at length previously--!!)
Freedom to trade without EU restrictions?

Money--As others have said above--the so-called divorce bill debt will be spread. Savings in the future--the NHS was never a 'promise' just an example as to where extra money could be spent.

Negotiations have hardly started. We have to give time to see how they will progress before all the negative talk.

Bipat, I admit I haven't studied any detailed polling at the time, but anecdotally speaking to people after the referendum there were a variety of reasons people voted for Brexit- my point is simply considering how close the vote was, and how it is abundantly obvious that some of votes for Brexit were for reasons we now see were either incorrect to begin with, or have proven to be incorrect with the path Britain is on- though I agree negotiations are ongoing.

On immigration there were some who simply voted for Brexit expecting(a) an overall significant decrease in immigration (b) specifically wanted less competition from migrants. (c) eliminating free movement besides for economic reasons, also for security reasons. Whether you agree with either, those were reasons I heard. Others expecting big cash savings- paying 50 billion pounds certainly last thing on their minds. Some whether from emotion or political belief, to get rid of EU rules- but may will remain if UK wishes to export to EU.

But what extra money are you referring to if there is such a "divorce bill" ?

Just seems to me if referendum vote so close and evidently result hardly what voters thought they would be getting, it would be logical for a better-worded referendum to be held before taking such a plunge. The disillusion of Brexit voters when they see after Brexit none of their particular reasons for voting for it are met I don't think will be a positive for the UK.
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Old Nov 29th 2017, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
I am British (Just OCI by spouse reasons).
No Diwali---is 'festival of light'--'good over evil' etc.
Only a match making time in the sense that Christmas might also be with all the good times and parties etc.

(Has become just a time of spend/spend on presents etc. as has Christmas and Thanksgiving.)
Oh ok. Thanks. Sorry I mixed up your nationality. What is OCI?
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