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Old Nov 27th 2017, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by Annetje View Post
Hmmmmm
wow!
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike View Post
Agreed - My take on the rest:

Gulf War 1 - not right all about oil.

Bosnia Herzigovina - right if only to prevent more Srebrenica incidents.

Kosovo - not right to be allied to KLa terrorists who are no better than Serbs.

Afghanistan - right to destroy AQ training camps but not right to stay there.

Gulf War 2 - badly badly wrong, fake dossier, fake premise, people should go to prison.

Libya - wrong look at the state of the country now.......

Syria - badly wrong (have Clinton and Hague every been more wrong?) looks like the Ruskis, Iran and Turkey will sort out our mess here though.


Did I miss any?
No you make the point very well.
Add to it that the billions Cheney and his cronies made from the arms and security industries.
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 12:47 pm
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I think the original question by daveincolchester was, as an expat/migrant--which of your countries would you side with if they were at war!!

For most of us that is not likely to happen!
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 2:37 pm
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I think the original question by daveincolchester was, as an expat/migrant--which of your countries would you side with if they were at war!!

For most of us that is not likely to happen!
And in many cases, refugees are only refugees because we've bombed their country.
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
And in many cases, refugees are only refugees because we've NEEDLESSLY bombed their country TO IMPROVE POLITICAL POPULARITY BY APPEARING STRONG.
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
And in many cases, refugees are only refugees because we've bombed their country.
Or we sell the weapons to the countries that are waging war there.

For example:

UK weapons companies have made £6bn from Saudi Arabia since it started bombing Yemen | The Independent
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
Or we sell the weapons to the countries that are waging war there.

For example:

UK weapons companies have made £6bn from Saudi Arabia since it started bombing Yemen | The Independent
Please - both sides if possible - the UK is an equal opportunities vendor.
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by daveincolchester View Post
I get that the tug of the old country is a fact of life.
How to sort the wheat from the chaff.
If the country you came from and the country you now live in declared war, who would you side with?
Given that you'd probably be put in an internment camp, you wouldn't have the choice, would you?
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
I did think we were right to take a trip to the Falklands and South Georgia 35 years ago.
Of course we were. It kept Maggie in power didn't it?
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:27 pm
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Of course we were. It kept Maggie in power didn't it?
Yes - lucky break that
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:33 pm
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Of course we were. It kept Maggie in power didn't it?
I wonder how she would have handled this Brexit thing.

Talking about it ... This is going really well, isn't it

Brexit: Ireland says it has EU backing to push Theresa May for further concessions on border dispute | The Independent

Who will win this one ???
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:36 pm
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I wonder how she would have handled this Brexit thing.
I imagine, in this time, she would be out Faraging, Farage.
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 4:43 pm
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I imagine, in this time, she would be out Faraging, Farage.
Or she might be outremaing the remainiacs - who knows?
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 5:54 pm
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I wonder how she would have handled this Brexit thing.
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Although she was one of the main architects of the EU and the single market she was losing her faith in the EU towards the end.

If she had been in power she would have used her handbag as a weapon to negotiate more concessions than Cameron managed and there would have been no question of a referendum.
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Old Nov 27th 2017, 6:01 pm
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Although she was one of the main architects of the EU and the single market she was losing her faith in the EU towards the end.

If she had been in power she would have used her handbag as a weapon to negotiate more concessions than Cameron managed and there would have been no question of a referendum.
Good point I think that's probably right
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