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macliam Nov 26th 2017 7:18 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by 007Steve (Post 12389378)
C'mon Iano, that assumes people would buy them.... A luminary genius couldn't shift them. But this whole thing reminded me of the tale of PM Gladstone who spent his declining years trying to guess the answer to The Irish Question; unfortunately, whenever he was getting close, the Irish secretly changed the question........

No secret there, we're still doing it!;)

Now we're teaching you how to understand English. When you agree that talks on trade can't start until you have made substantive progress on the border, you can't then say that the border can't be settled until you start talking about trade. ...... unless, of course, you think that just repeating the mantra "There will be no hard border" and suggesting some half-baked trade-related solutions might work is making "substantive progress". (although, I understand mantras are very popular in some quarters).

Then again, when you get into bed with a party that campaigned to leave the EU in a province that voted to remain, you have a problem. Now riddle me this: "How do you have no border, yet not treat NI differently to any other part of the UK???" (Thanks to Ms.A.Foster, late of Stormont, for that question.

GeniB Nov 26th 2017 7:19 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by macliam (Post 12389413)
Or, to put it another way, it's OK for the UK to welch on it's responsibilities, renege on agreements and leave its neighbours in the sh*t...... and the rest of the world will line up to extend the hand of friendship to an isolated ex-colonial power who have ideas above their budget.

Good luck with that.:sneaky:

You forgot.' Leaving the fine example of how they trade 'honestly' with their previous partners in their wake. I can see countries lining up to be treated in the same way,can't you :sarcasm:

Red Eric Nov 26th 2017 7:29 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12389403)
Westmonster... Again?

Yes - I notice from the link that they're touting for customers to sign up for alerts of this nature. Wonder how much Dick gets paid for passing it on?

Shouldn't think it's very likely but it would be funny if they got done for publishing content from behind the Telegraph's paywall - and without acknowledgement.

iano Nov 26th 2017 7:36 pm

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Dick Dasterdly is a putinbot

Annetje Nov 26th 2017 7:45 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12389397)
Annetje, possibly you don't realise but what we are talking about by "ghettos" in the UK are areas where a minority of people of one religion live deliberately to separate themselves from the rest of UK society, have ther own schools etc. marry within their own group and not only refuse to mix with others but condemn other parts of society as not good. It has nothing to do with not being able to afford housing.

The majority of expats/migrants do not live in this way.


We are of the same mind! ---what I am trying to express is the view that migrants/expats those of non-EU origin as my family is--have ties to their country of origin and there is nothing wrong with this!

OK

daveincolchester Nov 27th 2017 12:28 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
I get that the tug of the old country is a fact of life.
How to sort the wheat from the chaff.
If the country you came from and the country you now live in declared war, who would you side with?

GeniB Nov 27th 2017 7:12 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by daveincolchester (Post 12389493)
I get that the tug of the old country is a fact of life.
How to sort the wheat from the chaff.
If the country you came from and the country you now live in declared war, who would you side with?

Well if the past is anything to go by,you wouldn't get a choice. It would be assumed that you were 'hostile' to the country you now live in.. Like the Germans in the UK,sent to an internment camp on the Isle of Man.Or the Japanese in the USA ,bussed out to huge concentration camps in the desert

DaveLovesDee Nov 27th 2017 7:17 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by daveincolchester (Post 12389493)
I get that the tug of the old country is a fact of life.
How to sort the wheat from the chaff.
If the country you came from and the country you now live in declared war, who would you side with?

Do we have to support either country?

I didn't support any of our foreign adventures of the last 30 years.

Red Eric Nov 27th 2017 7:48 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12389582)
I didn't support any of our foreign adventures of the last 30 years.

I can go back a little further than that ;)

Bipat Nov 27th 2017 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12389582)
Do we have to support either country?

I didn't support any of our foreign adventures of the last 30 years.

I depends where your family is! Nowadays it is not war but family matters that cause anxiety as to 'where should you be'.

For us we cancelled our return to India because of serious illness of immediate family member--then yesterday phone call, OH's elderly brother there taken ill---spent the whole night thinking what do I do!! Can't let OH travel alone ---(he is also getting elderly) but I am needed here. Fortunately brother in India recovering!
This sort of dilemma will increase as we all get even older.

(Grateful for arguing on BE --to take the mind off worries!)

Regards the last war ---read- 'The Past is Myself by Christabel Bielenberg'.

Shard Nov 27th 2017 8:18 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by daveincolchester (Post 12389493)
I get that the tug of the old country is a fact of life.
How to sort the wheat from the chaff.
If the country you came from and the country you now live in declared war, who would you side with?

Well that's not going to happen. We're all in the EU now...oh wait...:ohmy:

Garbatellamike Nov 27th 2017 9:10 am

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12389589)
I can go back a little further than that ;)

just a little??? ;)

DaveLovesDee Nov 27th 2017 9:44 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12389589)
I can go back a little further than that ;)


Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12389627)
just a little??? ;)

I did think we were right to take a trip to the Falklands and South Georgia 35 years ago.

Garbatellamike Nov 27th 2017 9:54 am

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12389636)
I did think we were right to take a trip to the Falklands and South Georgia 35 years ago.

Agreed - My take on the rest:

Gulf War 1 - not right all about oil.

Bosnia Herzigovina - right if only to prevent more Srebrenica incidents.

Kosovo - not right to be allied to KLa terrorists who are no better than Serbs.

Afghanistan - right to destroy AQ training camps but not right to stay there.

Gulf War 2 - badly badly wrong, fake dossier, fake premise, people should go to prison.

Libya - wrong look at the state of the country now.......

Syria - badly wrong (have Clinton and Hague every been more wrong?) looks like the Ruskis, Iran and Turkey will sort out our mess here though.


Did I miss any?

Annetje Nov 27th 2017 10:49 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12389641)
Agreed - My take on the rest:

Gulf War 1 - not right all about oil.

Bosnia Herzigovina - right if only to prevent more Srebrenica incidents.

Kosovo - not right to be allied to KLa terrorists who are no better than Serbs.

Afghanistan - right to destroy AQ training camps but not right to stay there.

Gulf War 2 - badly badly wrong, fake dossier, fake premise, people should go to prison.

Libya - wrong look at the state of the country now.......

Syria - badly wrong (have Clinton and Hague every been more wrong?) looks like the Ruskis, Iran and Turkey will sort out our mess here though.


Did I miss any?


Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12389592)
I depends where your family is! Nowadays it is not war but family matters that cause anxiety as to 'where should you be'.


(Grateful for arguing on BE --to take the mind off worries!)

Regards the last war ---read- 'The Past is Myself by Christabel Bielenberg'.

Hmmmmm


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