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Old Sep 6th 2017, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by EMR View Post
I heard an interview with Vince Cable who claimed that during the time of the coalition government there were a number of studies into the effect of immigration on the UK economy and infrastructure.
These studies pointed to only positive contributions ,however May blocked publication when Home Secretary.
These reports obviously still exist however I will be suprised if these are " leaked !!".
Vince Cable alleges that the Home Secretary blocked the reports. Vince Cable is a 'rampant' Remainer and has made some peculiar remarks lately (and I say that as a LibDem member--at least still on the books as such)!

It is obvious to all that immigration from mutiple world countries has been essential to the UK economy and much else.

Most people would agree that free -movement from the entire world is not a good idea.
So Post Brexit some form of rules/restrictions on work/settlement etc. as happens in most of the countries of the world is necessary.
Post Brexit this can be flexible--according to need and the rules are not fixed but can be changed.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Expatrick View Post
Advantage Brexit! UK can get rid of that awful EU working time Directive. Hurrah! 60 hour+ weeks, just 2 weeks holiday a year (less time with OH & brats), can start doing all those jobs those beastly Europeans have been doing, what's not to like!

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Nowadays in the UK, OHs also need to be working and the brats in a nursery in order to 'get by'!
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 5:50 pm
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Again, you could've found that out for yourself.

The first point, which you skimmed over, is that there are a number of issues that must be resolved before going into full "reform" mode. One of which is Brexit, another is the elections.

Yet, it's all acknowledged, every stakeholder has their views, and eventually, there will be agreements. Because, well, there's little other choice, really.

In fact, Britain could really benefit from acknowledging reality at the moment. But that wouldn't be very British, would it?

In the mean time, life in the EU isn't particularly intolerable. In fact, it's improving steadily. Pity the same can't be said for Britain.
Really?

Tens of thousands of EU citizens left in the year to March 2017
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 5:55 pm
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Most people would agree that free -movement from the entire world is not a good idea.
Agreed, but we are only talking about free movement in Europe.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 5:56 pm
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Nowadays in the UK, OHs also need to be working and the brats in a nursery in order to 'get by'!
Good, now they can work even harder, freed up from those hateful EU Regs.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Vince Cable alleges that the Home Secretary blocked the reports..
Lord Wallace has 'alleged' similar suppression of reports, and both were in the Coalition government at the time.

I doubt a party leader would make unsubstantiated allegations against another, it'd be political suicide.

Yes, we know the PM's 'spokesperson' has denied the allegations, but May's motive for doing so is not hard to fathom...
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:19 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
Really?

Tens of thousands of EU citizens left in the year to March 2017
Well, you know how those foreigners are. Always moving around n' stuff. Pretty shifty bunch.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Well, you know how those foreigners are. Always moving around n' stuff. Pretty shifty bunch.
Let's hope they come your way.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:32 pm
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Vince Cable alleges that the Home Secretary blocked the reports. Vince Cable is a 'rampant' Remainer and has made some peculiar remarks lately (and I say that as a LibDem member--at least still on the books as such)!

It is obvious to all that immigration from mutiple world countries has been essential to the UK economy and much else.

Most people would agree that free -movement from the entire world is not a good idea.
So Post Brexit some form of rules/restrictions on work/settlement etc. as happens in most of the countries of the world is necessary.
Post Brexit this can be flexible--according to need and the rules are not fixed but can be changed.
Denial denial, denial.
In hope the reports are genuinely leaked unlike today contrived leak.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post

Let's hope they come your way.
Bit of a problem with foreigners?
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
Really?

Tens of thousands of EU citizens left in the year to March 2017
Who can blame them given the direction the UK is taking.
Given the rise in real wages elsewhere compared to the UK being just one factor.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
Really?

Tens of thousands of EU citizens left in the year to March 2017
.... and given the relative populations of the EU and the UK, how does that compare to the 60,000 British citizens who left the UK in 2016? (http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/)

Most reports go by reported headline statistics, but few choose to wade through the actual data to check whether the headlines are valid - and, as we all know, it's all about the interpretation.
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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post

Let's hope they come your way.
I'm bloody surrounded by 'em! Maybe Spain will do a "Britain", and kick 'em all out. Then it'll be only English. Just as god intended (well, nige at least).

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Old Sep 6th 2017, 6:58 pm
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I thought non EU immigration was under control, according to May today ?
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