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Old Aug 16th 2017, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by iano View Post

Had my doubts before but never been more certain that Brexit does indeed mean Brexit, there'll be no deal. Politicos will have to sell it to the Business community and the great British public, and is why they're prepping the EU blame game in advance. Hold on tight y'all.
I think I start to agree. It is very unlikely that there will be a deal. In March 2019 freedom of movement for British citizens, goods, services, and capital will end. The interim period is running now and business on both sides better prepare for closed borders now.
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Old Aug 16th 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by iano View Post
As DLD's excellent 'Dog's Breakfast' link highlighted above, analyse any overt Brexit 'plan' closely and in detail, and it turns out to be complete wind and piss. As EMR pointed out, the people coming up with this tripe aren't stupid, and they know that the 27 EU members aren't stupid either. As Guy V has said "fantasy". Despite the bluster I don't even think La Mancha really buys it, he's surely brighter than that (?!), yet Brexiteer pride dictates a stiff upper lip.

Talking of which, note the bunker mentality of our proud Brexiteers; Dick Dasterdly, Vino, Fred, Cape Blue, Golden Years etc etc. Growing silence. Only dear old Manch occasionally sticks his head above the parapet, telling us all we don't get it, rather unconvincingly. Those that know, know, best to keep the head down.

Had my doubts before but never been more certain that Brexit does indeed mean Brexit, there'll be no deal. Politicos will have to sell it to the Business community and the great British public, and is why they're prepping the EU blame game in advance. Hold on tight y'all.
If la mancha thinks we're 'not getting it', maybe he's the one not getting it?

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Spot on & when they have finished blaming the EU they can cite the "will of the people".

6 o' clock beautifully covered!
And the 'people' will blame those who voted Remain for not getting behind the government.
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Old Aug 16th 2017, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by macliam View Post
There's still that lovely whiff of fantasy in the air ..... "They need us more than we need them".

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Quite.

We export billions more to Ireland than Ireland exports to us.

Therefore, according to Brexiter logic, we need them more than they need us.
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Quite.

We export billions more to Ireland than Ireland exports to us.

Therefore, according to Brexiter logic, we need them more than they need us.
Or, possibly, we need each other? Mutually beneficent - no?
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Or, possibly, we need each other? Mutually beneficent - no?
Obviously - but that's not what Brexiters say.
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Obviously - but that's not what Brexiters say.
Well there is a lot of fuss in the media at the moment which is probably either irrelevant at best or counter productive at worse - the actual negotiations aren't in progress at the moment and I think the next 4 day negotiation period is sometime next week.

I think when idiots like Boris and Guy V are making emotive statements it is best to ignore them as they are not actually involved at the table.
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If la mancha thinks we're 'not getting it', maybe he's the one not getting it?.
Oh, I think he does. He'll be along later to confirm, by denying.
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Dick, Vino, Fred, Cape Blue, Golden Years etc. are probably as bored with you lot as I am and that is why they are absent. We do not have to post anymore because we are leaving. Full stop. If you people want to post meaningless and boring links to the Guardian and non-entity bloggers then go ahead and waste your time day after day.

Of course you don’t get it. You were all moaning about Britain falling off a cliff edge yet when we come up with proposals for a temporary agreement to stop a cliff edge you still complain. Just what do you want? Let’s face it, everything that we do now you will complain about. It is just how some people are. You all seem to think this is all about British businesses. It is not. European businesses will also be affected. If EU negotiators want to be seen to be tough and refuse whatever proposals we put forward then good luck to the Eurozone and those who live within it. By the way, someone tell the EU negotiators that the clock is ticking. If you think it will only be Britain that falls off a cliff edge without an agreement March 2019 then think again: the EU, all twenty-seven states, will be strung out right behind us. Happy landings.

And Ami, I haven’t a clue what you are on about. Are you okay?
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Originally Posted by la mancha View Post
Dick, Vino, Fred, Cape Blue, Golden Years etc. are probably as bored with you lot as I am and that is why they are absent. We do not have to post anymore because we are leaving. Full stop. If you people want to post meaningless and boring links to the Guardian and non-entity bloggers then go ahead and waste your time day after day.

Of course you don’t get it. You were all moaning about Britain falling off a cliff edge yet when we come up with proposals for a temporary agreement to stop a cliff edge you still complain. Just what do you want? Let’s face it, everything that we do now you will complain about. It is just how some people are. You all seem to think this is all about British businesses. It is not. European businesses will also be affected. If EU negotiators want to be seen to be tough and refuse whatever proposals we put forward then good luck to the Eurozone and those who live within it. By the way, someone tell the EU negotiators that the clock is ticking. If you think it will only be Britain that falls off a cliff edge without an agreement March 2019 then think again: the EU, all twenty-seven states, will be strung out right behind us. Happy landings.

And Ami, I haven’t a clue what you are on about. Are you okay?
You along with 52% of those who voted to leave knew at the time knew that there was no plan.
That the EU was not going to give the UK everything it wanted when it left.
Or is it you and every other brexiter who were clueless when it came to the implications of your vote.
Tell us what exactly did you vote for .?
What did you expect to happen.
By the way Eurozone grow is higher than the UK.
Holland best figures since the creation of the Euro.
Sterling still around E1,10 against the Euro
Where is your evidence that the EU needs us more than we need them.

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Old Aug 16th 2017, 1:58 pm
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Dick, Vino, Fred, Cape Blue, Golden Years etc. are probably as bored with you lot as I am and that is why they are absent. We do not have to post anymore because we are leaving. Full stop. If you people want to post meaningless and boring links to the Guardian and non-entity bloggers then go ahead and waste your time day after day.

Of course you don’t get it. You were all moaning about Britain falling off a cliff edge yet when we come up with proposals for a temporary agreement to stop a cliff edge you still complain. Just what do you want? Let’s face it, everything that we do now you will complain about.... (etc)
Ah, that's where they are, hard at work with you on proposals and doing Brexit for us

Your proposals Delusions of grandeur, or what? Are you sure you're ok?
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Trumpeted by the local Tory MP as a post brexit boost, Amazon are opening a new mega warehouse near Bristol.
With the promise of up to 1000 new jobs the starting wage is MINIMUM for those it refers to as " fullfillment workers " rising to £8.15 hour.
I thought one of thecreasons for Brexit was to improve the lot of those at the bottom of our society.
It will not be local Brits queuing up for these low paid jobs in one of the highest house price areas in the UK.
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Old Aug 16th 2017, 2:13 pm
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Dick, Vino, Fred, Cape Blue, Golden Years etc. are probably as bored with you lot as I am and that is why they are absent. We do not have to post anymore because we are leaving. Full stop. If you people want to post meaningless and boring links to the Guardian and non-entity bloggers then go ahead and waste your time day after day.

Of course you don’t get it. You were all moaning about Britain falling off a cliff edge yet when we come up with proposals for a temporary agreement to stop a cliff edge you still complain. Just what do you want? Let’s face it, everything that we do now you will complain about. It is just how some people are. You all seem to think this is all about British businesses. It is not. European businesses will also be affected. If EU negotiators want to be seen to be tough and refuse whatever proposals we put forward then good luck to the Eurozone and those who live within it. By the way, someone tell the EU negotiators that the clock is ticking. If you think it will only be Britain that falls off a cliff edge without an agreement March 2019 then think again: the EU, all twenty-seven states, will be strung out right behind us. Happy landings.

And Ami, I haven’t a clue what you are on about. Are you okay?
If, as been previously claimed by the PM that leaving with 'no deal is better than a bad deal', the time businesses have to prepare for whatever deal is negotiated is NOW!

And EU-based businesses are preparing already, so are many UK-based businesses trading in the EU.
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Dick, Vino, Fred, Cape Blue, Golden Years etc. are probably as bored with you lot as I am and that is why they are absent. We do not have to post anymore because we are leaving. Full stop. If you people want to post meaningless and boring links to the Guardian and non-entity bloggers then go ahead and waste your time day after day.

Of course you don’t get it. You were all moaning about Britain falling off a cliff edge yet when we come up with proposals for a temporary agreement to stop a cliff edge you still complain. Just what do you want? Let’s face it, everything that we do now you will complain about. It is just how some people are. You all seem to think this is all about British businesses. It is not. European businesses will also be affected. If EU negotiators want to be seen to be tough and refuse whatever proposals we put forward then good luck to the Eurozone and those who live within it. By the way, someone tell the EU negotiators that the clock is ticking. If you think it will only be Britain that falls off a cliff edge without an agreement March 2019 then think again: the EU, all twenty-seven states, will be strung out right behind us. Happy landings.
That is so wrong it's amusing. How can anyone believe that codswallop?
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Old Aug 16th 2017, 2:42 pm
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If EU negotiators want to be seen to be tough and refuse whatever proposals we put forward then good luck to the Eurozone and those who live within it.
Or,

If UK negotiators want to be seen to be ridiculous by flouncing from a fully functioning 29 nation customs union and then proposing a temporary ill-thought-out bespoke replacement not fit for purpose, then good luck to the UK and those who live within it.

Acting tough ? European countries must be laughing their collective socks off, manch !!

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Manch seems to be coming around to the view of most Europeans that Brexit is, was, and will be a lose-lose situation for all involved 🤔

Yes, Manch, Brexit will makes us all poorer, less powerful, more divided, and will make trade more difficult, more complex, and more expensive which will be paid by the consumer.Do you get it now?

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