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Old Jul 12th 2017, 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Like the EU, America is a major continental power. Quite different animal than a little island off the coast.
A little Island that is:

6th Largest world economy.

6th largest military expenditure globally

2nd largest foreign aid donor in the world

2nd in the last Olympics after USA

2nd in the last paralympics after China

Whilst we clearly aren't the power of the USA, to try and suggest we are a minnow is disingenuous.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 2:27 am
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Everything's relative. A minnow compared to the big players. China, US, EU...

At least 20% of Britain's economic strength (that's probably being kind) is a result of its status as the global gateway to the world's largest economy (or 2nd largest, depending on how you measure it, it's pretty close). But Britain has tossed all that in favour of the ideological, so it's perfectly plausible that it will fall out of the G7 rather quickly post-brexit.

Without the power and prominence of the world's largest market, Britain represents a pretty modest economy, one that has few natural resources and produces little, so there's not much chance of growth, politically or economically..

Strip off the hubris, and at the end of the day, it is after all, just an island off the coast of Europe.

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Old Jul 12th 2017, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
An American writes something I agree with - woohoo!
Did you also notice the parts where the UK was the one pushing for most of the things it's now complaining about.

That American understands irony, it seems........

At the end of the day, the Yanks would never dream of being a member of an EU-like group, so why do they think we should be?
No, the U.S. would never go for the idea that someone legally resident in one state could go and live and work in another member state, or be able to ship goods across any part of the 50 states (Free movement).

The U.S. would also never entertain the idea of starting off with a small number of states then adding to them through the years, bringing new members to the same standards as those already in the Union.

And of course, the U.S. would never consider having an overall government who manages national regulations while states make regulations that apply to their own residents.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 5:50 am
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You and Scamp? Does his wife know about that?

Congratulations to you both though.
He's the taker.

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Some time before today and after the Big Bang, I don't know exactly. He has mentioned his wife before though.
Sadly not yet but she may as well be after 7+ years, might propose this year though.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Did you also notice the parts where the UK was the one pushing for most of the things it's now complaining about.

That American understands irony, it seems........



No, the U.S. would never go for the idea that someone legally resident in one state could go and live and work in another member state, or be able to ship goods across any part of the 50 states (Free movement).

The U.S. would also never entertain the idea of starting off with a small number of states then adding to them through the years, bringing new members to the same standards as those already in the Union.

And of course, the U.S. would never consider having an overall government who manages national regulations while states make regulations that apply to their own residents.
Yes, weird that someone would point to a United States as a organisations that would never dream of uniting states 😂
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Everything's relative. A minnow compared to the big players. China, US, EU...

At least 20% of Britain's economic strength (that's probably being kind) is a result of its status as the global gateway to the world's largest economy (or 2nd largest, depending on how you measure it, it's pretty close). But Britain has tossed all that in favour of the ideological, so it's perfectly plausible that it will fall out of the G7 rather quickly post-brexit.

Without the power and prominence of the world's largest market, Britain represents a pretty modest economy, one that has few natural resources and produces little, so there's not much chance of growth, politically or economically..

Strip off the hubris, and at the end of the day, it is after all, just an island off the coast of Europe.
Would you consider it to be a house of cards? Or showing signs of sinking slowly beneath the waves? Populated by lemmings?

Is it on the way, do you think, to becoming a crock of shite?


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He's the taker.
He's an arse, that's for sure.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 8:34 am
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A little Island that is:

6th Largest world economy.

6th largest military expenditure globally

2nd largest foreign aid donor in the world

2nd in the last Olympics after USA

2nd in the last paralympics after China

Whilst we clearly aren't the power of the USA, to try and suggest we are a minnow is disingenuous.
Now we know ,it's not about the future prosperity of the UK and its people's but how we do in the Olympics.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Did you also notice the parts where the UK was the one pushing for most of the things it's now complaining about.

That American understands irony, it seems........



No, the U.S. would never go for the idea that someone legally resident in one state could go and live and work in another member state, or be able to ship goods across any part of the 50 states (Free movement).

The U.S. would also never entertain the idea of starting off with a small number of states then adding to them through the years, bringing new members to the same standards as those already in the Union.

And of course, the U.S. would never consider having an overall government who manages national regulations while states make regulations that apply to their own residents.
No, the US would never agree to tie-up with Canada, Mexico, Guatemala etc with free movement of people and supra-national law courts etc.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 9:08 am
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Now we know ,it's not about the future prosperity of the UK and its people's but how we do in the Olympics.
Grow-up, I didn't say anything of the sort, merely pointed-out the folly of the "small island, can't survive on its own" meme.
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 9:13 am
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Grow-up, I didn't say anything of the sort, merely pointed-out the folly of the "small island, can't survive on its own" meme.
Of course we will survive if thats all you want,if that's your priority.
I want more for the UK than just survival..
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Everything's relative. A minnow compared to the big players. China, US, EU...

At least 20% of Britain's economic strength (that's probably being kind) is a result of its status as the global gateway to the world's largest economy (or 2nd largest, depending on how you measure it, it's pretty close). But Britain has tossed all that in favour of the ideological, so it's perfectly plausible that it will fall out of the G7 rather quickly post-brexit.

Without the power and prominence of the world's largest market, Britain represents a pretty modest economy, one that has few natural resources and produces little, so there's not much chance of growth, politically or economically..

Strip off the hubris, and at the end of the day, it is after all, just an island off the coast of Europe.
Yes you are correct, however so many people want to come and live there from Europe and elsewhere that it might sink under the weight!

(Parts of the Eastern coast are already falling into the sea!)
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Old Jul 12th 2017, 9:34 am
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Yes you are correct, however so many people want to come and live there from Europe and elsewhere that it might sink under the weight!

(Parts of the Eastern coast are already falling into the sea!)
A brexiter now claims we are tipping sideways into the sea because of over population .We should immediately stop All immigration from anywhere before we all fall off the White cliffs.
I am surprised the brexit campaign did not realise what an 'effective 'poster that would have made.😂😂😂😂

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A brexiter now claims we are tipping sideways into the sea because of over popilation .We should immediately stop All immigration from anywhere before we all call off the White cliffs.
I am surprised the brexit campaign did not realise what an 'effective 'poster that would have made.😂😂😂😂
It was a joke in answer to the 'just a small island' remark.
However -if it is so insignificant why do so many want to come to Britain?
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Of course we will survive if thats all you want,if that's your priority.
I want more for the UK than just survival..
Prior to the referendum one could see that there was no reasoning with the swivel-eyed-loon extreme brexiters, they were so biased in their weird anti-EU outlook one could never have a sensible discussion with them.

Since then this has switched to the swivel-eyed-loon extreme remainer.
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