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Old May 9th 2017, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Yes and the multiple regulations/red tape /conditions which have multiplied with the EU, adversely affecting small businesses of which there are millions in the UK.
Also successful big businesses --for example Dyson, Hindujas, Gupta etc favour Brexit.
Hindujas - the Indian conglomerate with a family desperate to become British? Weren't they the ones pushing Keith Vaz for passports?

Perhaps you should contact them to swap? Seems appropriate?
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Old May 9th 2017, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Yes and the multiple regulations/red tape /conditions which have multiplied with the EU, adversely affecting small businesses of which there are millions in the UK.
Also successful big businesses --for example Dyson, Hindujas, Gupta etc favour Brexit.
Dyson favours brexit because he has his products manufactured in Malaysia.
He wants fewer restrictions on bringing in skilled engineers etc from non EU countries.
Where is your evidence that the Hindujas and Liberty favour Brexit or put it another way a hard brexit.
The imposition of Euro specs across EU manufacturing has been one of the biggest boosts to exporters , manufacturers and consumers.
The lack of paperwork and regulations for UK exporters to the EU has saved UK companies tens of millions over the years .
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Old May 9th 2017, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by Scamp View Post
Hindujas - the Indian conglomerate with a family desperate to become British? Weren't they the ones pushing Keith Vaz for passports?

Perhaps you should contact them to swap? Seems appropriate?
Yes, they got their passports years ago, helped mainly by Tony Blair. They obviously thought UK good for future business!

Not sure what you meant by "swap"??
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Dyson favours brexit because he has his products manufactured in Malaysia.
He wants fewer restrictions on bringing in skilled engineers etc from non EU countries.
Where is your evidence that the Hindujas and Liberty favour Brexit or put it another way a hard brexit.
The imposition of Euro specs across EU manufacturing has been one of the biggest boosts to exporters , manufacturers and consumers.
The lack of paperwork and regulations for UK exporters to the EU has saved UK companies tens of millions over the years .
Read about their views--I have put some links on the 'segregation' thread.
Also read the views of small business people, "lack of paper work and regulations" ????
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Old May 9th 2017, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Read about their views--I have put some links on the 'segregation' thread.
Also read the views of small business people, "lack of paper work and regulations" ????
I Googled liberty house and Brexit, nothing that you suggest.
Many of companies that export are also small business, they benefit from the lack of paperwork.
Meeting goes EU specs means that they can sell across 27 other countries.
It's called Free trade.
1 agreement 27 markets.
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I Googled liberty house and Brexit, nothing that you suggest.
Many of companies that export are also small business, they benefit from the lack of paperwork.
Meeting goes EU specs means that they can sell across 27 other countries.
It's called Free trade.
1 agreement 27 markets.
As I said above do some more research and look up the views of small businesses and 'red tape' of EU etc.

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Old May 9th 2017, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat View Post
Yes and the multiple regulations/red tape /conditions which have multiplied with the EU, adversely affecting small businesses of which there are millions in the UK.
Also successful big businesses --for example Dyson, Hindujas, Gupta etc favour Brexit.
Post-Brexit, companies such as these can lobby for looser employment regulations. Dyson moved jobs to Malaysia because he can pay much less in wages there.

Originally Posted by EMR View Post
Many of companies that export are also small business, they benefit from the lack of paperwork.
Meeting goes EU specs means that they can sell across 27 other countries.
It's called Free trade.
1 agreement 27 markets.
And if UK companies want to continue selling into the remaining 27 EU countries post-Brexit, their products will still have to meet those same EU regulations. And if they want to sell to Indian and Australian markets, the products will have to meet the regulations of those countries too (whether they trade under a free trade agreement, bilateral trade agreement or WTO rules).
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Old May 9th 2017, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by amideislas View Post
Yes, well, we've all heard that everything European (or "foreign" for that matter) is in some way "substandard". Good job "Global Britain" won't be infected with all that substandard stuff anymore.

But it begs the question that if Britain is leaving, why is it trying so hard to grab all the goodies? I thought England wanted out of it? Shouldn't it do, then? You wouldn't want to be "infected" would you?
It's only you who ever mentions sub standard or inferior. Perhaps you have a complex?

It's quite simple really, I'm surprised that someone as simple as you doesn't get it.

Leave the EU. The institution that does not work for the UK or in fact the majority of Europe.

Does not equate to leaving Europe. Or hating Europe. Or hating Europeans. Or finding European things inferior. Or sub standard.

Happy to trade, not happy to be dictated to.

I could find smaller words if it would help.

OK?
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Old May 9th 2017, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by iano View Post
I think you're mixing up a bilateral trade agreement with a single market agreement.
I'm not mixing them up, I'm asserting that the difficulties in agreeing a simple bilateral agreement with one partner is multiplied exponentially when your prospective partner requires the assent of 27 individuals.

And 20 of those 27 have no money to buy what you want to sell anyway.
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Old May 9th 2017, 11:29 am
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There's the problem with this entire delusion (and it's been inferred constantly throughout the debate); The presumption that the EU is "impoverished" and will be begging Britain to save it. Although in reality, Britain will soon be the desperado seeking "the kindness of strangers". It's already begun, but it doesn't matter.

It's been characterised as "special snowflake" syndrome.
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Old May 9th 2017, 11:32 am
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It's no delusion, only 9 of the 27 member states make a positive contribution to the EU budget and of the 9 that do, only three make positive contributions in excess of 5 billion euros.

And the UK is one of them.

Hardly surprising they don't want any other nett contributors to leave lol
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Old May 9th 2017, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by lgm1963 View Post
It's no delusion, only 9 of the 27 member states make a positive contribution to the EU budget and of the 9 that do, only three make positive contributions in excess of 5 billion euros.

And the UK is one of them.

Hardly surprising they don't want any other nett contributors to leave lol
I live in the impoverished EU, 2 very different States, and I can say with absolute confidence, that not only are neither "impoverished", but standards of living in both are quite visibly better than England (collectively). Not to mention both are growing faster, and people *do* have money.

But you'd need to leave the bubble to see that.
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Old May 9th 2017, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by lgm1963 View Post
Leave the EU. The institution that does not work for the UK or in fact the majority of Europe.
It's worked very well in Wales, to the tune of £500 million per year over the current 7-yr plan. That money is used to help create jobs, retrain workers from traditional industries, and to improve many of the roads.

Happy to trade, not happy to be dictated to.
Who's dictating?

The EU Commission? The UK's Commissioner was Lord Hill, until he resigned after the EU referendum result.

The EU Council? The UK's representative is whoever the UK Prime Minister is, currently Theresa May.

The Council of the European Union? The Uk's representative is whichever Cabinet minister holds the portfolio being discussed.

The EU Parliament? How many of our 73 MEPs are involved?

I could find smaller words if it would help.
It would help if you could use facts, and provide some evidence....
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