Scamp

Hindujas - the Indian conglomerate with a family desperate to become British? Weren't they the ones pushing Keith Vaz for passports?

Perhaps you should contact them to swap? Seems appropriate?

EMR

Dyson favours brexit because he has his products manufactured in Malaysia.
He wants fewer restrictions on bringing in skilled engineers etc from non EU countries.
Where is your evidence that the Hindujas and Liberty favour Brexit or put it another way a hard brexit.
The imposition of Euro specs across EU manufacturing has been one of the biggest boosts to exporters , manufacturers and consumers.
The lack of paperwork and regulations for UK exporters to the EU has saved UK companies tens of millions over the years .

Bipat

Yes, they got their passports years ago, helped mainly by Tony Blair. They obviously thought UK good for future business!

Not sure what you meant by "swap"??

Bipat

Read about their views--I have put some links on the 'segregation' thread.
Also read the views of small business people, "lack of paper work and regulations" ????

EMR

I Googled liberty house and Brexit, nothing that you suggest.
Many of companies that export are also small business, they benefit from the lack of paperwork.
Meeting goes EU specs means that they can sell across 27 other countries.
It's called Free trade.
1 agreement 27 markets.

Bipat

As I said above do some more research and look up the views of small businesses and 'red tape' of EU etc.

Gupta 'A leave voter who didn't expect the country to vote leave.'

Liberty House founder Sanjeev Gupta: How to be a 21st century industrialist | City A.M.

DaveLovesDee

Post-Brexit, companies such as these can lobby for looser employment regulations. Dyson moved jobs to Malaysia because he can pay much less in wages there.

And if UK companies want to continue selling into the remaining 27 EU countries post-Brexit, their products will still have to meet those same EU regulations. And if they want to sell to Indian and Australian markets, the products will have to meet the regulations of those countries too (whether they trade under a free trade agreement, bilateral trade agreement or WTO rules).

lgm1963

It's only you who ever mentions sub standard or inferior. Perhaps you have a complex?

It's quite simple really, I'm surprised that someone as simple as you doesn't get it.

Leave the EU. The institution that does not work for the UK or in fact the majority of Europe.

Does not equate to leaving Europe. Or hating Europe. Or hating Europeans. Or finding European things inferior. Or sub standard.

Happy to trade, not happy to be dictated to.

I could find smaller words if it would help.

OK?

lgm1963

I'm not mixing them up, I'm asserting that the difficulties in agreeing a simple bilateral agreement with one partner is multiplied exponentially when your prospective partner requires the assent of 27 individuals.

And 20 of those 27 have no money to buy what you want to sell anyway.

amideislas

There's the problem with this entire delusion (and it's been inferred constantly throughout the debate); The presumption that the EU is "impoverished" and will be begging Britain to save it. Although in reality, Britain will soon be the desperado seeking "the kindness of strangers". It's already begun, but it doesn't matter.

It's been characterised as "special snowflake" syndrome.

lgm1963

It's no delusion, only 9 of the 27 member states make a positive contribution to the EU budget and of the 9 that do, only three make positive contributions in excess of 5 billion euros.

And the UK is one of them.

Hardly surprising they don't want any other nett contributors to leave lol

lgm1963

Brexit: EU members' net contributions and net funding - Business Insider

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amideislas

I live in the impoverished EU, 2 very different States, and I can say with absolute confidence, that not only are neither "impoverished", but standards of living in both are quite visibly better than England (collectively). Not to mention both are growing faster, and people *do* have money.

But you'd need to leave the bubble to see that.

DaveLovesDee

It's worked very well in Wales, to the tune of £500 million per year over the current 7-yr plan. That money is used to help create jobs, retrain workers from traditional industries, and to improve many of the roads.

Who's dictating?

The EU Commission? The UK's Commissioner was Lord Hill, until he resigned after the EU referendum result.

The EU Council? The UK's representative is whoever the UK Prime Minister is, currently Theresa May.

The Council of the European Union? The Uk's representative is whichever Cabinet minister holds the portfolio being discussed.

The EU Parliament? How many of our 73 MEPs are involved?

It would help if you could use facts, and provide some evidence....