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iano Apr 22nd 2017 8:15 pm

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Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12235734)
UK certainly with Brexit coming certainly has a lot of incentive to build even closer relationships with the US...

In what way ? Snuggle up closer on the lap, suck ever harder on the teat, follow even more blindly ? Yeah right.

LouisB Apr 22nd 2017 8:25 pm

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Yet another brexit pipe dream evaporates.

US puts EU ahead of UK for deals, just like they all will.

Trump warming to EU trade deal with Britain behind in queue: Times | Reuters

Literally going to be nothing left to brexit at this rate. All the wild claims going pop, one by one...

DaveLovesDee Apr 22nd 2017 8:46 pm

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Originally Posted by LouisB (Post 12235807)
Yet another brexit pipe dream evaporates.

US puts EU ahead of UK for deals, just like they all will.

Trump warming to EU trade deal with Britain behind in queue: Times | Reuters

Literally going to be nothing left to brexit at this rate. All the wild claims going pop, one by one...

Exacxtly. Who wants a deal with circa 60 million consumers vs a circa 440 million consumers?

One deal is likely to be easier to negotiate (as one party will be desperate for any deal), while the other deal would be of much greater value to both parties.

Red Eric Apr 22nd 2017 9:25 pm

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Seems to be conflicting information about this queue for US trade deals.

I thought we Brits were the world leaders at queues. Can someone get it sorted out, please?

LouisB Apr 22nd 2017 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12235833)
Seems to be conflicting information about this queue for US trade deals.

I thought we Brits were the world leaders at queues. Can someone get it sorted out, please?

Yes, we're the best at creating them and will dutifully go to the back once in place...

Dick Dasterdly Apr 22nd 2017 10:27 pm

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Somewhat difficult to move ahead while we are being held hostage by antiquated dictatorial Eu restrictions
of which you moaners are very well aware, but conveniently refrain from mentioning.

Absolutely no problem at all though, once we are free from this godawful mess.

:cool:

Thairetired2016 Apr 23rd 2017 3:27 am

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Originally Posted by LouisB (Post 12235807)
Yet another brexit pipe dream evaporates.

US puts EU ahead of UK for deals, just like they all will.

Trump warming to EU trade deal with Britain behind in queue: Times | Reuters

Literally going to be nothing left to brexit at this rate. All the wild claims going pop, one by one...

It's going to be a TTIP like deal between EU and US. Merkel wants it against the will of other EU leaders and people.

Assanah Apr 23rd 2017 5:14 am

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Originally Posted by iano (Post 12235800)
In what way ? Snuggle up closer on the lap, suck ever harder on the teat, follow even more blindly ? Yeah right.

Yes, that would be the way. The US will always be the one who calls the shots and the UK will follow. It is not really are partnership.

Assanah Apr 23rd 2017 5:17 am

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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12235964)
It's going to be a TTIP like deal between EU and US. Merkel wants it against the will of other EU leaders and people.

TTIP will have to be ratified by the EU and the national parliaments including Wallonia's. It won't be Merkel who decides but she can of course push for faster negotiations.

SultanOfSwing Apr 23rd 2017 5:36 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12235663)
Someone should tell The Express to move on, even the Scottish version. Not that the referendum was about immigrants or anything...

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/c...67_express.png

That's a little harsh on the Queen, isn't it? I mean, I know she's German but I think she generally has a positive impact on the UK ...

Or maybe The Express need to work on their layout. One of the above.

LouisB Apr 23rd 2017 6:20 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12235860)
Somewhat difficult to move ahead while we are being held hostage by antiquated dictatorial Eu restrictions
of which you moaners are very well aware, but conveniently refrain from mentioning.

Absolutely no problem at all though, once we are free from this godawful mess.

:cool:

Again you're confused. UK is currently in the EU so we benefit from it including being at the front of the queue for negotiating with large countries. When we leave, the US has indicated the EU will still be at the front of the queue, so the Uk will fall behind...

As for the mess, that's brexit not the EU, for sure ūüėČ

amideislas Apr 23rd 2017 8:20 am

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The only economic study showing positive Brexit consequences debunked as 'doubly misleading'

The sole economic modelling exercise showing material benefits for the UK from Brexit has been debunked as ‚Äúdoubly misleading‚ÄĚ, further demolishing the argument that for Britain ‚Äúno deal would be better than a bad deal‚ÄĚ when it comes to the EU.

Work by the ‚ÄúEconomists for Brexit‚ÄĚ group, led by Professor Patrick Minford of Cardiff Business School, before last year‚Äôs referendum suggested that if the UK left the EU without a trade deal and unilaterally dropped all tariff barriers on imports the country‚Äôs GDP could be boosted by 4 per cent relative to otherwise.

The finding, which contradicted all other studies which showed that Britain would be worse off due to leaving the EU, has been widely cited by hardline Brexiteers and even some business figures as evidence that the UK economy has little to lose if Britain fails to conclude a trade deal with the rest of the EU.

DaveLovesDee Apr 23rd 2017 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12235964)
It's going to be a TTIP like deal between EU and US. Merkel wants it against the will of other EU leaders and people.

It's not Merkel who is TTIP's biggest fan. The Tories have been the biggest supporters.

Conservative MEPs welcome Prime Minister’s commitment on TTIP


Conservatives in the European Parliament today hailed a pledge by the Prime Minister's to put "rocket boosters" behind the planned EU-US trade deal. Tory MEPs have played a key role in driving forward negotiations on the so-called Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) which they believe can be worth billions to Britain's economy.
British Conservative Breaks Ranks, Opposes TTIP


Britain‚Äôs former Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1990-92, under Margaret Thatcher and John Major), and current Conservative MP (Member of Parliament), Peter Liley, did it when he blogged on April 3rd at the Conservative Party‚Äôs website ¬ęConservative Home¬Ľ:

¬ęI believe in free trade. Always have, always will. As the only serving MP to have negotiated a successful free trade deal (the Uruguay Round ‚Äď as Trade and Industry Secretary during the 1990s), I automatically supported the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) deal currently being negotiated between the USA and EU, assuming it was a free trade agreement.

The more closely I look at it, the more parts of it worry me. Conservatives who believe in free trade should be very wary about endorsing TTIP. And both the Leave and Remain campaigns should look very carefully at its implications for our EU membership.

la mancha Apr 23rd 2017 12:21 pm

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How long is the queue?

Red Eric Apr 23rd 2017 12:50 pm

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Does it matter to those who the EU is in front of?


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