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Dick Dasterdly Apr 15th 2017 10:36 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
EU leaders compared to 'zombies' by Sweden Democrats' Mattias Karlsson | World | News | Express.co.uk

"EU IS A ZOMBIE! Brussels leaders compared to 'walking dead' as European project crumbles

EUROPEAN UNION leaders have been labelled as zombies who are unable to acknowledge the dream of a federal state of Europe has failed, Sweden’s most popular party has blasted."

Fair Comment.


:nod:

LouisB Apr 15th 2017 10:39 am

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‪‬
‪http://theconversation.com/eu-agencies-a-brexit-loss-nobodys-talking-about-76222‬

(Not from express or mail, was running low on toilet paper)

EMR Apr 15th 2017 10:50 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12229616)
EU leaders compared to 'zombies' by Sweden Democrats' Mattias Karlsson | World | News | Express.co.uk

"EU IS A ZOMBIE! Brussels leaders compared to 'walking dead' as European project crumbles

EUROPEAN UNION leaders have been labelled as zombies who are unable to acknowledge the dream of a federal state of Europe has failed, Sweden’s most popular party has blasted."

Fair Comment.


:nod:

You seem to have a new Ukip type hero to worship now that , ukip Farage and his Dutch counterparts have been shown the door at the polls.
Do you also have his photo on your cave wall.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 15th 2017 11:03 am

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Jean-Claude Juncker STUCK IN TIME, warns Irish think tank | World | News | Express.co.uk


"They claimed Brussels is facing numerous “serious” existential threats but Jean-Claude Juncker is simply stuck in time, like Tom Hanks' character in the famous film.

The condemned the president of the European Commission and said he was unable to cope with the social, economic and terror-related problems arising across the bloc.

The Hibernia Forum, a Dublin-based think tank, took the European Union to task in a recent editorial written by Chairman Cormac Lucey. "


:cool:

LouisB Apr 15th 2017 11:12 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12229624)
Jean-Claude Juncker STUCK IN TIME, warns Irish think tank | World | News | Express.co.uk


"They claimed Brussels is facing numerous “serious” existential threats but Jean-Claude Juncker is simply stuck in time, like Tom Hanks' character in the famous film.

The condemned the president of the European Commission and said he was unable to cope with the social, economic and terror-related problems arising across the bloc.

The Hibernia Forum, a Dublin-based think tank, took the European Union to task in a recent editorial written by Chairman Cormac Lucey. "


:cool:

Super ironic given the nostalgic emotional brexit campaign taking us back, right back to the 1950s or something 🙄

LouisB Apr 15th 2017 11:13 am

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If you're posting links from the express or mail here and expecting people to take it seriously I have to question your judgement... anyway, as you were 🙄😂🤦‍♂️

EMR Apr 15th 2017 11:37 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12229624)
Jean-Claude Juncker STUCK IN TIME, warns Irish think tank | World | News | Express.co.uk


"They claimed Brussels is facing numerous “serious” existential threats but Jean-Claude Juncker is simply stuck in time, like Tom Hanks' character in the famous film.

The condemned the president of the European Commission and said he was unable to cope with the social, economic and terror-related problems arising across the bloc.

The Hibernia Forum, a Dublin-based think tank, took the European Union to task in a recent editorial written by Chairman Cormac Lucey. "


:cool:

You would think that Dick would know better.
We must assume that he does want his views to be taken seriously.
But not only does he continue with links from the Express but now from a group described as the latest in a line of those with right wing beliefs and philosophies.
But then in Dick world Junkers or Merkel or anyone in fact depending on his mood represents all that is wrong with the world.
Assad,Putin,etc they are just minor players on the world stage in Dick's mind.

Bipat Apr 15th 2017 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by LouisB (Post 12229618)
‪‬
‪http://theconversation.com/eu-agencies-a-brexit-loss-nobodys-talking-about-76222‬

(Not from express or mail, was running low on toilet paper)

The UK is not leaving Europe! It is joining the other 23 European countries not members of the EU trade association.

I would think obviously there will still be communication between the UK and these agencies regarding defence, food safety etc.
The UK will also have continued connections with non-EU countries which will lead to reciprocal information benefits.

EMR Apr 15th 2017 12:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12229645)
The UK is not leaving Europe! It is joining the other 23 European countries not members of the EU trade association.

I would think obviously there will still be communication between the UK and these agencies regarding defence, food safety etc.
The UK will also have continued connections with non-EU countries which will lead to reciprocal information benefits.

You mean like Switzerland and Norway that have beneficial relationships with the EU without the ties that you do not like.
Yet which have been rejected by our government.
The majority of those 23 other nations have existing agreements with the EU of one form or another at least 5 have applied to join the EU.
When we leave its looks like we may not have agreements with any EU or non EU WTO rules will apply.
But who knows what trade is available from Monaco Andorra, San Marino, The Vatican, Bosnia, Serbia , Belarus.etc Economies of "huge ?? "e untapped potential for UK manufactured goods. " dream on ".

Dick Dasterdly Apr 15th 2017 12:49 pm

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How EU is facing RUPTURE as Brussels splits into SEPARATE power blocs | World | News | Express.co.uk


This has been an increasing ongoing process for the past two years or so.

The Brussels Dictatorship has recently had no choice but to accept it and consequently modify its policies, as their dreams of a great Eu Empire rapidly fade away.

:cool:

Bipat Apr 15th 2017 1:02 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12229651)
You mean like Switzerland and Norway that have beneficial relationships with the EU without the ties that you do not like.
Yet which have been rejected by our government.
The majority of those 23 other nations have existing agreements with the EU of one form or another.
When we leave its looks like we may not . WTO rules will apply.
But who knows what trade is available from Monaco Andorra, San Marino, The Vatican, Bosnia, Serbia , Belarus.etc Economies of "huge ?? "e untapped potential for UK manufactured goods. " dream on ".

Once again you didn't read the posts.
My reply was to the OP who put a link regarding particular agencies. Defence, disease control etc.
The "beneficial" was regarding exchange of information, between UK and the EU agencies, which will surely continue.

It was nothing to do with trade.

EMR Apr 15th 2017 1:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12229660)
Once again you didn't read the posts.
My reply was to the OP who put a link regarding particular agencies. Defence, disease control etc.
The "beneficial" was regarding exchange of information, between UK and the EU agencies, which will surely continue.

It was nothing to do with trade.

What post, what link, no reference in your post.
You are right for once, Brexit has little to do with expanding UK trade.
Even our our security agencies are concerned at the potential threats to the UK if our relationship with the countries that matters is affected when we leave. Boris commented on this at the end of last month.
I hope you are right and that May does not isolate the UK.
There is little sign of that not happening is there ?

Bipat Apr 15th 2017 1:52 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12229664)
What post, what link, no reference in your post.
You are right for once, Brexit has little to do with expanding UK trade.
Even our our security agencies are concerned at the potential threats to the UK if our relationship with the countries that matters is affected when we leave. Boris commented on this at the end of last month.
I hope you are right and that May does not isolate the UK.
There is little sign of that not happening is there ?

As I said you don't read posts!! The original post was 16772 with the link.
You put a post 10 minutes later! It's all on this page!!
I replied to post 16772 quoting the link in post 16778 You replied to this post which quoted the link, with a totally unrelated answer and now you say "what link"!!

As I said the information regarding security and terrorism is two-way; the UK has connections and information from non-EU countries. (See the link on the 'other' thread. It is in the interests of all concerned that this contunues.

EMR Apr 15th 2017 2:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12229682)
As I said you don't read posts!! The original post was 16772 with the link.
You put a post 10 minutes later! It's all on this page!!
I replied to post 16772 quoting the link in post 16778 You replied to this post which quoted the link, with a totally unrelated answer and now you say "what link"!!

As I said the information regarding security and terrorism is two-way; the UK has connections and information from non-EU countries. (See the link on the 'other' thread. It is in the interests of all concerned that this contunues.

Of course it is in the interests of all to be part of a European security relationship, tell that to our government.
Name a significant non EU country apart from Turkey that has any significant global influence when it comes to security.
Then compare your 23 non EU members to the major EU players.
Do you include Russia and Belarus as one our non EU security partners.
Europe's big players are in the EU that is where the influence is.
That is where the decisions that matter are taken and where the others and all the tiddlers follow.
The UK will no longer be a member , will not be in the room when policies are decided ,decisions made.
It's all in the article, did you read it.
It is what you voted for.

Bipat Apr 15th 2017 2:31 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12229688)
Of course it is in the interests of all to be part of a European security relationship, tell that to our government.
Name a significant non EU country apart from Turkey that has any significant global influence when it comes to security.
Then compare your 23 non EU members to the major EU players.
Do you include Russia and Belarus as one our non EU security partners.
Europe's big players are in the EU that is where the influence is.
That is where the decisions that matter are taken and where the others and all the tiddlers follow.
The UK will no longer be a member , will not be in the room when policies are decided ,decisions made.
It's all in the article, did you read it.
It is what you voted for.

We were talking about information shared and exchanged by the UK and EU agencies in the future. not just defence did you read the link finally?

Where has Michael Fallon been in the last few days!!! Post 167 on the 'other' thread--you answered it!! Tightening links.

Prevention of terrorism--UK and non-EU countries have continual sharing of information regarding Afghanistan and Pakistan, also important to EU countries --do you really think exchange of information to and from the agencies will stop Post Brexit?


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