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Novocastrian Apr 13th 2017 2:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12228329)
Mr Karlsson added: “The position of my party is we want a Swexit as soon as possible because we feel our membership of the European Union is hurting us.

Surely that should be Sexit? I might be up for that myself.

EMR Apr 13th 2017 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12228490)
The Daily Mail has campaigned on the Lawrence case, Sergeant Blackman, the MPs’ expenses scandal, plastic bags, toxic microbeads etc. etc. I ask again, can anyone tell me any other newspaper that has been so active in campaigns that matter so much?

Many of the links on BE come from the Guardian and the Independent. The Guardian has such a low readership that it has to resort to begging its internet trolls for money to stay in business. The Independent wrote such rubbish when in publication that it folded completely and is now only available online to satisfy the trolls. So I repeat my question, ‘can anyone tell me any other newspaper that has been so active in campaigns that matter so much?’ If you cannot name one then I, and I suspect many others, will treat your opinions as prejudiced and hollow.

The " old " Mail campaigned to find the racist killers of Lawrence.
How many years ago was it,?
But todays mail encourages racial divides in this country with its anti immigrant stance..
Mind you compared to the Express is a beacon of tolerance.

Lion in Winter Apr 13th 2017 3:17 pm

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12228520)
My posts said nothing about the EU or Brexit or lies or anything else to do with what other newspapers are dedicated to, so your answers are hollow. I am referring to campaigns and the prejudiced comments against the Mail. You have all jumped to the wrong conclusion again. My posts reflect your constant prejudiced views against a newspaper.

A xenophobic hate rag? Do you (LouisB) mean the newspaper that has campaigned for justice for Stephen Lawrence?

Name one other newspaper that campaigned so vigorously for Stephen Lawrence? Just one.

Eric, I am not talking about who exposed what or which newspaper has dedicated sections in their newspapers: I am talking about campaigns, for example the Daily Mail 'Bring them to Justice Campaign' aimed at bringing private prosecutions against corrupt politicians in the MPs' expenses scandal.


It's not possible to be prejudiced against a newspaper. It's just a paper, with an editorial board and people who report or write in it. It's a business not a holy book.

The tribal approach to life, not just the brexit, is divisive and frankly just not very intelligent.

SultanOfSwing Apr 13th 2017 3:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12228547)
It's not possible to be prejudiced against a newspaper. It's just a paper, with an editorial board and people who report or write in it. It's a business not a holy book.

The tribal approach to life, not just the brexit, is divisive and frankly just not very intelligent.

I know, right? This is why the Guardian/Independent readers aren't out with torches and pitchforks because Dick and La Mancha sometimes make fun of them, or Pulaski and Boiler call it the Graun. Quite simply, they don't give a toss because it's only a bloody paper.

amideislas Apr 13th 2017 4:38 pm

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Anyway, this:

The UK’s negotiating position on Brexit is a fantasy

The two opening negotiating positions are incompatible. Britain starts from a fantasy in which the UK is happily already outside the EU and seeking a better relationship, while the EU 27’s position is grounded in reality. Britain will have to budge.

In any case, while there was no truth in Theresa May’s boast in January that “no deal is better than a bad deal”, the sentiment is closer to reality for the EU 27 than it is for the UK. So, to get an agreement, which Britain needs, it must make concessions.

Novocastrian Apr 13th 2017 4:40 pm

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12228549)
I know, right? This is why the Guardian/Independent readers aren't out with torches and pitchforks because Dick and La Mancha sometimes make fun of them, or Pulaski and Boiler call it the Graun. Quite simply, they don't give a toss because it's only a bloody paper.

I often refer to it as the Grauniad too. Back in the 1960s the paper was notorious for its typographical errors and Private Eye popularised the term as a gentle poke at the organ.

I've always been a dedicated reader of the Guardian though but don't take everything in it as gospel: unlike Daily (fill in your rag) readers.

SultanOfSwing Apr 13th 2017 4:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12228608)
I often refer to it as the Grauniad too. Back in the 1960s the paper was notorious for its typographical errors and Private Eye popularised the term as a gentle poke at the organ.

I've always been a dedicated reader of the Guardian though but don't take everything in it as gospel: unlike Daily (fill in your rag) readers.

I only ever bought newspapers for the crosswords anyway (mostly the Belfast Telegraph, for disclosure), so I really have no frame of reference for this one :D

EMR Apr 13th 2017 4:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12228608)
I often refer to it as the Grauniad too. Back in the 1960s the paper was notorious for its typographical errors and Private Eye popularised the term as a gentle poke at the organ.

I've always been a dedicated reader of the Guardian though but don't take everything in it as gospel: unlike Daily (fill in your rag) readers.

My antipathy towards certain newspapers goes back to 6th form days when anything that reflected the conservative and socialist establishment was scorned.
Idealism and the popular press are poles apart.
Once it was Tits and football that sold most papers now it's appealing to the prejudices of one group or another that is a necessary prerequisite.

Bipat Apr 13th 2017 5:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12228608)
I often refer to it as the Grauniad too. Back in the 1960s the paper was notorious for its typographical errors and Private Eye popularised the term as a gentle poke at the organ.

I've always been a dedicated reader of the Guardian though but don't take everything in it as gospel: unlike Daily (fill in your rag) readers.

What happened to News of the World? I seem to remember learning quite a lot from that in childhood? Seemed to be all about aristocrats having orgies!

DaveLovesDee Apr 13th 2017 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12228617)
What happened to News of the World?

They were shut down.

la mancha Apr 13th 2017 5:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12228547)
It's not possible to be prejudiced against a newspaper. It's just a paper, with an editorial board and people who report or write in it. It's a business not a holy book.

The tribal approach to life, not just the brexit, is divisive and frankly just not very intelligent.

Oh, no? Is that why LouisB says the Mail is a xenophobic race hate rag when it has campaigned for twenty years on the Lawrence case? Or others’ constant sneering remarks about newspapers they don’t read?

SoS, I make fun of the Guardian and Independent only out of retaliation. I do not care much for any newspaper. I don’t believe much of anything they say. I agree they are only bloody papers.

SultanOfSwing Apr 13th 2017 5:22 pm

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12228624)
Oh, no? Is that why LouisB says the Mail is a xenophobic race hate rag when it has campaigned for twenty years on the Lawrence case? Or others’ constant sneering remarks about newspapers they don’t read?

SoS, I make fun of the Guardian and Independent only out of retaliation. I do not care much for any newspaper. I don’t believe much of anything they say. I agree they are only bloody papers.

The Mail is a tabloid. It is, by definition, a rag - as all tabloids are, and just because it came down on the 'right side' on a handful of events or issues doesn't make that any less so.

Nobody disputes any links from the Telegraph or Times, despite their conservative leanings, because they are broadsheet papers and considered respectable journalism. People hate the Mail because it's a crappy tabloid, not because of its politics.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 13th 2017 5:35 pm

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DISASTER FOR STURGEON as she is told Scotland DOES NOT OWN North Sea Oil - Your Brexit

Oh dear.

:cool:

DaveLovesDee Apr 13th 2017 5:35 pm

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Heres some comedy genius from the Department on Exiting the EU

Many of the replies are especially funny.

DaveLovesDee Apr 13th 2017 5:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12228633)

If Scotland were to leave the UK, anything within their territorial waters would legally be theirs.


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