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EMR Apr 10th 2017 7:16 am

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Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12225481)
Really? If your country wouldn't be such a total failure at global politics in the past and the present the Middle East wouldn't be coming apart in this awful brutal way. Then we wouldn't have the exodus of traumatized people on such a massive scale. No refugee crisis, no rise in crimes in Germany.

It may only be just over 20 miles but the channel is the one and only reason that the UK has avoided being seriously affected by the refugee crisis.
As you suggest we were one of the main players in the events that caused it.

jimenato Apr 10th 2017 8:40 am

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Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12225481)
Really? If your country wouldn't be such a total failure at global politics in the past and the present the Middle East wouldn't be coming apart in this awful brutal way. Then we wouldn't have the exodus of traumatized people on such a massive scale. No refugee crisis, no rise in crimes in Germany.

Erm... we are not the only European country to blame for a spot of bother - you know, displaced people and so on - within recent history.

It might be better if you stick to the subject - Post EU referendum.;)

amideislas Apr 10th 2017 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12225560)
Erm... we are not the only European country to blame for a spot of bother - you know, displaced people and so on - within recent history.

It might be better if you stick to the subject - Post EU referendum.;)

Absolutely true.

But Britain too oft appears to [want to] believe it isn't amongst them.

EMR Apr 10th 2017 9:33 am

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Originally Posted by Annetje (Post 12225298)
You are sooooo B O R I N G !!!!! Seek help for you addiction with the EU !

If you look at Dicks latest favourite site you will see that it is anti Muslim, anti migrant, anti EU in fact it looks very similar to those used by racist nationalist groups.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 10th 2017 9:40 am

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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12225336)
Germans don't want those migrants either.
Perhaps spend your time to learn German. Then you can read German papers, visit and talk to Germans. See how wonderful they find migrants and EU.

Precisely.

Their chickens have come home to roost and they're not too enamoured with them, to put it mildly.

:cool:

Assanah Apr 10th 2017 9:44 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12225560)
Erm... we are not the only European country to blame for a spot of bother - you know, displaced people and so on - within recent history.

It might be better if you stick to the subject - Post EU referendum.;)

Erm, I wasn't denying anything about European history. I was just pointing out that Britain has done Europe no favour with is misplaced policy of violence and aggression against so many SOVEREIGN countries in the Middle East. I believe that the UK is one of the reasons for the refugee crisis. So if you bitch about Merkel and the problems that Germany has with the refugees you might first take a good long look in the mirror. You might see the ugly face of someone who is not on the right side of history.

Bipat Apr 10th 2017 9:53 am

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Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12225594)
Erm, I wasn't denying anything about European history. I was just pointing out that Britain has done Europe no favour with is misplaced policy of violence and aggression against so many SOVEREIGN countries in the Middle East. I believe that the UK is one of the reasons for the refugee crisis. So if you bitch about Merkel and the problems that Germany has with the refugees you might first take a good long look in the mirror. You might see the ugly face of someone who is not on the right side of history.

There is no point in looking back at past history. The Sunni/Shia divide is more important now.
Also the attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt, 44 killed, similar attacks in Pakistan, nothing to do with Britain or Europe.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 10th 2017 9:58 am

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Brexit trade deal with India 'worth £2BILLION to British economy' | UK | News | Express.co.uk

:thumbup:

EMR Apr 10th 2017 10:03 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12225598)
There is no point in looking back at past history. The Sunni/Shia divide is more important now.
Also the attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt, 44 killed, similar attacks in Pakistan, nothing to do with Britain or Europe.

Your lack of recent historical knowledge is astounding.
The US,UK intervention in Iraq sparked the Shia Sunni conflict with the US favouring the Sunni over the Shia.
The Shia then became the enemy.
The Afghanistan adventure created the Taliban who went from armed friend of the US to mortal enemy in a few years.
Nothing is as simplistic as you suggest.

EMR Apr 10th 2017 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12225602)


What trade deal, if there was Bipat would have beat you to the post by some time.

Bipat Apr 10th 2017 10:23 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12225603)
Your lack of recent historical knowledge is astounding.
The US,UK intervention in Iraq sparked the Shia Sunni conflict with the US favouring the Sunni over the Shia.
The Shia then became the enemy.
The Afghanistan adventure created the Taliban who went from armed friend of the US to mortal enemy in a few years.
Nothing is as simplistic as you suggest.

Really EMR you are ignorant. The conflict has always been there. In Iraq the minority Shia ruling over the majority Sunni, and conflict; certainly US/UK shouldn't have interfered.
The Taliban were not created by the West. It originated in West Pakistan/ Afghanistan border.

Bipat Apr 10th 2017 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12225604)
What trade deal, if there was Bipat would have beat you to the post by some time.

Read the links this and in other thread. They are predictions.
But your usual negative prejudice!!:lol::

EMR Apr 10th 2017 10:35 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12225615)
Read the links this and in other thread. They are predictions.
But your usual negative prejudice!!:lol::

If you mean I am prejudiced against the Express you are correct.
Predictions you mean like so called " project fear ".
Why are your predictions any better than anyone else's.

EMR Apr 10th 2017 10:37 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12225614)
Really EMR you are ignorant. The conflict has always been there. In Iraq the minority Shia ruling over the majority Sunni, and conflict; certainly US/UK shouldn't have interfered.
The Taliban were not created by the West. It originated in West Pakistan/ Afghanistan border.

Wrong again, the Shia were opposed to and oppressed by Saddam.
They did not rule Iraq.
The Taliban were armed and financed by the US to fight the Russians .

iano Apr 10th 2017 10:42 am

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It's great that Dick and his cohorts are so positive and optimistic for the future of Brexit Britain, it's what you'd expect I suppose. That said...

The economic fundamentals are concerning; a tanked sterling, national debt and deficit growing, inflation creeping ever higher, the savings ratio at its lowest since records began in 1963, quantitative easing, a reluctance by the BOE to put the brakes on and increase the base rate, it's really not looking a healthy outlook at all.

As things stand we're going to need to export our way to Brexit Nirvana, so about time we started making 'stuff' again.


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