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amideislas Apr 5th 2017 2:09 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
Lots of dubious stuff in that EU report, including:

- Agricultural products (Food (incl. Fish) & Raw Materials)

- - Food

- Fuels and mining products

- - Ores and other minerals

- - Fuels

- - Non ferrous metals

- Iron and steel

- Chemicals

- - of which Pharmaceuticals

- Other semi-manufactures

- Machinery and transport equipment

- - Office and telecommunication equipment

- - - Electronic data processing and office equipment

- - - Telecommunications equipment

- - - Integrated circuits and electronic components

- - Transport equipment

- - - of which Automotive products

- - Other machinery

- - - Power generating machinery

- - - Non electrical machinery

- - - Electrical machinery

- Textiles

- Clothing

Besides, I understood EU members were prohibited from trading with "the rest of the world". This in itself is an indictment, innit? And hidden in plain sight! Diabolical!

EMR Apr 5th 2017 2:09 pm

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12222226)
From the European Commission's own website.

'European Union, Trade in goods with Saudi Arabia'

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/doc...doc_113442.pdf

Trade in arms,Where was May yesterday and whose Bombing campaign in the Yemen did she support , using arms we sell them.

Maybe that's her new vision for the UK a low tax haven, arms supplier to who ever comes calling.

EMR Apr 5th 2017 2:11 pm

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 12222226)
From the European Commission's own website.

'European Union, Trade in goods with Saudi Arabia'

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/doc...doc_113442.pdf

Trade in arms where is this on your link ?
Would of course include the UK , we are still a member .
,Where was May yesterday and whose bombing campaign in the Yemen did she support , using arms we sell them.

Maybe that's her new vision for the UK a low tax haven, arms supplier to who ever comes calling.

iano Apr 5th 2017 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12222231)
Trade in arms,Where was May yesterday and whose Bombing campaign in the Yemen did she support , using arms we sell them.

Maybe that's her new vision for the UK a low tax haven, arms supplier to who ever comes calling.

Bloody Germans are occupying the higher ground again.

German arms company Heckler & Koch to ‘no longer supply undemocratic, corrupt countries’ | The Independent

Assanah Apr 5th 2017 2:19 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12222230)


Besides, I understood EU members were prohibited from trading with "the rest of the world". This in itself is an indictment, innit? And hidden in plain sight! Diabolical!

I think you misunderstood. Only the UK was prohibited from trading with non-Eu countries. A wrong that will be set right with Brexit.

amideislas Apr 5th 2017 2:23 pm

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Ahh, yes of course - I forgot, under secret nonexistent rule EU-7113245679A-C-00000213475124, paragraph 2189876200875, amendment 62134982346781289234978234-K

Thanks for clearing that up.

Lion in Winter Apr 5th 2017 2:23 pm

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Originally Posted by iano (Post 12222225)

http://spectatorblogs.imgix.net/file...op&w=601&h=360

iano Apr 5th 2017 2:28 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
See Our Nige has been whipping up a storm today in Strasbourg, whinging and whining about the 'nasty, vindictive EU trying to take us hostage' and likening them to the Mafia.

Britain's little diplomat ahead of the most important negotiations in a generation, you really couldn't make it up.

amideislas Apr 5th 2017 2:37 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by iano (Post 12222243)
See Our Nige has been whipping up a storm today in Strasbourg, whinging and whining about the 'nasty, vindictive EU trying to take us hostage' and likening them to the Mafia.

Britain's little diplomat ahead of the most important negotiations in a generation, you really couldn't make it up.

Sounds a bit desperate, really.

Did you know he's trying to organise a "CalExit"? Google it. You couldn't make it up.

EMR Apr 5th 2017 2:41 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12222252)
Sounds a bit desperate, really.

Did you know he's trying to organise a "CalExit"? Google it.

Great, let's hope he goes walkabout in parts of south LA sooner rather than later.
I am sure very diverse population will welcome him with open " arms"

Bipat Apr 5th 2017 2:43 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 12222214)
The thing is, it's not really like that in the UK. Some people on this thread create a false impression of the lives, thoughts and beliefs of the majority of the country. It's worth remembering that those who voted for Brexit make up only a small percentage of the actual population.

Remain
Vote share
48.1%
VOTES16,141,241


Leave
Vote share
51.9%
VOTES17,410,742



Out of a population of 60 million-ish, that isn't very many.

The electorate is about 46.5 million, and about 72% of them voted. Which means that about 35% of the electorate voted for Brexit.

Before anyone freaks out, no, I'm not suggesting overturning or "ignoring" the vote. But I am saying that the general climate in the country is not accurately represented by some of our angrier Brexit fans here.

(Not too sure about your maths.)
However you could also argue that a small percentage of the population voted to remain.
So the 'general climate of the country' is mixed and our majority Remainer fans on this Forum needn't be so dismissive of our Brexiter intelligence etc.

(Many of the 'actual population' are too young to pronounce the word Brexit, and could only colour in a voting form).

Dick Dasterdly Apr 5th 2017 2:44 pm

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Telling it how it is.

Oops they don't like it up em Mr Mainwaring.

:thumbup:

iano Apr 5th 2017 2:46 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12222252)
Did you know he's trying to organise a "CalExit"? Google it. You couldn't make it up.

I did. Trump's bitch trying to jettison those pesky liberals, without whom The Donald would have won the popular vote !

EMR Apr 5th 2017 2:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12222255)
(Not too sure about your maths.)
However you could also argue that a small percentage of the population voted to remain.
So the 'general climate of the country' is mixed and our majority Remainer fans on this Forum needn't be so dismissive of our Brexiter intelligence etc.

(Many of the 'actual population' are too young to pronounce the word Brexit, and could only colour in a voting form).

Read the post again to, " it's the size of the electoral register that counts ".
While you will be happy with the change in attitude by May etc towards immigration .EU and Non EU along with I believe the vast majority of Remainers many of those who voted leave will now be asking why they are being ignored.
Is it questioning their intelligence to suggest that " we told you so ".

DaveLovesDee Apr 5th 2017 3:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12222195)

From your link,


“With a shared Whig history, the King James Bible, the Anglican Church, long historical memory – all of these things make up a valuable Anglo-Atlanticist patrimony.
:huh:


Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12222200)

Did you understand what the article actually said?


In a report by the European Parliamentary Research Service entitled "Payment backlog in recent EU budgets”, the black hole is said to be ”significant" and the authors add there is an "increasing level of unpaid payment claims at year-end due to insufficient payment appropriations”.

It adds: "Since 2011, a problem of a growing backlog of unpaid claims at year-end has become significant.

"After years of sluggish absorption of the amounts committed to EU programmes, especially in the field of cohesion policy, the flow of payment claims submitted by the Member States and other recipients of EU funds has accelerated.

"The development appears to be a relatively recent phenomenon in the implementation of the EU budget, so much so that data on it are somewhat incomplete.

"The situation has continued to deteriorate, and in 2014 the payment backlog at year-end was estimated at approximately €26bn, corresponding to roughly 19 per cent of the payment appropriations authorised in the annual budget."

When asked to clarify the figure, a spokeswoman for European Commission said: "The RAL amounted to approximately EUR 238 billion at the end of 2016.
It's because the UK and other countries have been allowed to agree to defer payments to the EU. Our deferred payments are included in the 60 million that we need to pay the EU as recently discussed.


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