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Lion in Winter Mar 30th 2017 10:48 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12217765)
Sorry if it upsets you and all that, but it is relevant to a previous comment.

:cool:

To think Remoaners are still crying into their beer and wondering where it all went wrong, when they were happy to approve of a clown like that to be in charge of the main Eu policy making process.

Anyway, best of luck with his one man war against the US, though I don't see that working out very well either.

:rofl:

On the bright side, at least you credited your source this time.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 30th 2017 10:56 pm

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
Hurry along folks.
Get your Brexit Article 50 Special. :thumbup:

Ryanair launch massive Brexit seat sale - fly to 50 routes for just £9.99 each way with their Article 50 special - Mirror Online


:thumbsup:

EMR Mar 31st 2017 7:01 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12217770)

As usual Dick is behind the times.
The sales, clever promotion was for one day only.
It was not an article 50 special.

EMR Mar 31st 2017 7:02 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12217765)
Sorry if it upsets you and all that, but it is relevant to a previous comment.

:cool:

To think Remoaners are still crying into their beer and wondering where it all went wrong, when they were happy to approve of a clown like that to be in charge of the main Eu policy making process.

Anyway, best of luck with his one man war against the US, though I don't see that working out very well either.

:rofl:

Do you know the saddest thing about Dick, he really does believe crap like this.

amideislas Mar 31st 2017 7:17 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
It's the same old thing .. like Trump's imaginary beliefs:

1. Some goofball tweets something they'd "like to believe" as a "fact". Or, some public figure speaks some soundbyte which can be spun to mean something very different if you place it in some other context.

2. Some obscure extremist media outlet picks it up and spins a story. Then a more popular media outlet (e.g., Daily Depress / Daily Fail) picks it up and re-spins it with even more weight.

3. Dick (and his like) reads [the headline], and with all his predispositions, actually believes it - because he wants to. And without the benefit of actually reading the article, makes up his own theories about what it means.

And this is how fake news becomes populist "fact". And how to fabricate popular opinion as a political tool.

Lemmings come to mind.

iano Mar 31st 2017 7:39 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
Lemmings, or turkeys.

It was tough enough negotiating with them all as a fully paid up, net contributing member, go figure how difficult it will prove having flounced.

“What we have come up with … is the idea of a comprehensive free trade agreement and a comprehensive customs agreement that will deliver the exact same benefits as we have.” - Brexit Secretary David 'Delusional' Davis.

amideislas Mar 31st 2017 8:11 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by iano (Post 12217950)
“What we have come up with … is the idea of a comprehensive free trade agreement and a comprehensive customs agreement that will deliver the exact same benefits as we have.” - Brexit Secretary David 'Delusional' Davis.

I don't think it's a stretch to interpret this as a plan to achieve "all of the benefits without any of the burdens".

But apparently, anyone who suggests this is "delusional" is equated to facilitating "punishment" of the UK - by not granting benefits of membership without the burdens.

But again, if you leave the club, you leave the club, bennies and all. Stop with the "benefits street" mindset. It doesn't exist outside of Britain, and even though it might feel rather marginalising, the fact is, the EU is not a British welfare state. You voted to become "just Britain". So do that already, and for once, take responsibility for it.

InVinoVeritas Mar 31st 2017 8:19 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12217939)
Dick (and his like) reads [the headline], and with all his predispositions, actually believes it - because he wants to. And without the benefit of actually reading the article, makes up his own theories about what it means.

And this is how fake news becomes populist "fact". And how to fabricate popular opinion as a political tool.

Lemmings come to mind.

If the hat fits, Ami ;)

iano Mar 31st 2017 8:26 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
For the next god knows how many years, government resources and time will be prioritised on 'Brexiting', to the extent that other areas currently needing addressing, a long list, will be neglected. This country, what's left of it, will be playing catch-up for years thereafter.

Good job we have a clear Brexiteer plan for 'Global Britain' to bring home the bacon, because we're going to need it.

EMR Mar 31st 2017 8:31 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by iano (Post 12217966)
For the next god knows how many years, government resources and time will be prioritised on 'Brexiting', to the extent that other areas currently needing addressing, a long list, will be neglected. This country, what's left of it, will be playing catch-up for years thereafter.

Good job we have a clear Brexiteer plan for 'Global Britain' to bring home the bacon, because we're going to need it.

Very true, by focusing on Brexit the May government can divert attention away from the endemic problems the UK faces.
Social deprivation, the NHS, education, infrastructure, lack of investment and poor productivity.
What will their excuse will be after Brexit .

EMR Mar 31st 2017 8:32 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas (Post 12217964)
If the hat fits, Ami ;)

Says a Brexiter, I had to check the date , I thought it was April 1st.

iano Mar 31st 2017 8:44 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12217969)
What will their excuse will be after Brexit .

At a guess, the blame will shift to the Commonwealth countries for not indulging 'Global Britain' sufficiently.

GeniB Mar 31st 2017 8:52 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 
Oh boy has the UK ever been HAD

Brexit was indeed a set up..as predicted by the journalist Simon Kuper well before the vote

He should know having been at Oxford with the 'set'

Cameron,May,Gove,Hammon,Johnson et al.. They were infamous for their secret club. Their passionate debates about their right to rule Britain and not have input from the EU
The manipulation of democracy that they studied from history

I suspected Theresa May when her 'remain' vote turned so fast (with her coat) and her vitriolic treatment of Heseltine.when he didn't vote brexit. . Now we have the king weasel David Cameron saying he was 'always a brexiter' why what a surprise. The old divide and have a win-win situation.. Ahh the peasants won't notice... You can almost hear the laughter in Chipping Norton.
Well UK you have the pleasure of having the most transparent 'bent' Government in history to lead you. They stand hand in hand with the worst leader of the western world in history. A man who openly admires dictatorships.

So enjoy.!!!.please don't answer this post with any foolish 'remoaners' tripe .or the word democracy There was neither remains or leavers. You were had. Poor old UK

Bipat Mar 31st 2017 9:19 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 12217985)
No, that's tomorrow.



Whether we voted Leave or Remain, the Tories wanted it to be about us v them (where 'them' = those who voted the opposite of 'us'). More of an us v us.

If we're fighting each other, we're not fighting the Tories, UKIP and the Tory-lite that many in the Labour Party want to keep. At the end of the day, I'd suggest every member of this forum wants the best for the UK, we just have different opinions on how this should be achieved. And that's what the Tories are counting on to keep dividing us.

I agree, we have Brexit now whether we voted for it or not. Surely what is best for the UK will be the best deals possible for leaving the EU, future trade with the EU, EU countries, and other non-EU countries. It cannot be achieved in two days!

All the negativity, criticising the PM and Ministers at every opportunity, insults to Brexiters, the press daily reporting on even the slightest set back, can only do harm.
It would seem that some want failure.

iano Mar 31st 2017 9:34 am

Re: Post EU Referendum
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 12217991)
It would seem that some want failure.

Hardly, some of us are former ex-pats and the livelihood of ourselves and that of our families in the UK is going to be directly affected by Brexit.

In the meantime, not sure whether you're suggesting we rearrange the deckchairs, or just do a Nelson.


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