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Lion in Winter Mar 21st 2017 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12209243)
BBC risks undermining Brexit and damaging UK with 'pessimistic and skewed' coverage, 70 MPs warn

BBC risks undermining Brexit and damaging UK with 'pessimistic and skewed' coverage, 70 MPs warn

I'm sure I have mentioned this before and received biased responses.

Here is my biased response. Anyone who gets worked up about the BBC yet happily absorbs and endlessly repeats the fabricated garbage that has appeared without ceasing for a very, very long time on the pages of the Mail, Express, etc., is entirely unaware of the meaning of the term "irony".

amideislas Mar 21st 2017 8:22 am

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I love this quote (from "select" MPs, in the telegraph, no less).

They say that the corporation has failed to "break out of pre-referendum pessimism" and accept the "economic good news" the UK has enjoyed since the referendum.

I mean, why would anyone have any reason to be pessimistic about Brexit? Because, well, anyone can see it's been great so far. Being "free" and all...

Lion in Winter Mar 21st 2017 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 12209261)
I love this quote (from the telegraph, no less).

They say that the corporation has failed to "break out of pre-referendum pessimism" and accept the "economic good news" the UK has enjoyed since the referendum.

I mean, why would anyone have any reason to be pessimistic about Brexit? Because, well, anyone can see it's been great so far. Being "free" and all...

Disagreeing with the party line is "bias" you know. Also, quite possibly, evidence of being an enemy of the people. I'm beginning to suspect that people may also have confused the terms "democracy" and "authoritarianism".

amideislas Mar 21st 2017 8:41 am

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There's been a theory floating around amongst the lefty academic elite that the earth orbits the sun. But anyone can see that the sun orbits the earth every day. And because time of day is dependent on the position of the sun, and it all begins with GMT, it's pretty obvious to anyone where the center of the universe is. But you know, those elite intellectual remoaner "citizens of nowhere" have their delusional theories...

EMR Mar 21st 2017 8:49 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12209243)
BBC risks undermining Brexit and damaging UK with 'pessimistic and skewed' coverage, 70 MPs warn

BBC risks undermining Brexit and damaging UK with 'pessimistic and skewed' coverage, 70 MPs warn

I'm sure I have mentioned this before and received biased responses.

The views of 590 mps are ignored.
It's a bit like your attitude to the vote in Gib and that of the 48% who voted remain.

Red Eric Mar 21st 2017 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12209098)
How does Germany contribute to NATO? | Germany | DW.COM | 20.03.2017

Interesting map shows which countries are pulling their weight and which are letting the side down.

Only the UK, the not so well off Poland and little Estonia are doing there bit.

Disappointing to see some of the better off countries still not prepared to meet their obligations.

:cool:

Oh, it's not an obligation, Dick. As your link makes abundantly clear, it's actually a suggestion (or target, as it's often referred to). In 2014 all of those countries that were spending less than the suggestion promised to stop cuts in defense spending, and to gradually increase spending towards the goal of 2% of GDP within a decade.

So it's a target, a goal, and one which countries still have the larger part of a decade to fulfil.

jimenato Mar 21st 2017 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12209295)
Oh, it's not an obligation, Dick. As your link makes abundantly clear, it's actually a suggestion (or target, as it's often referred to). In 2014 all of those countries that were spending less than the suggestion promised to stop cuts in defense spending, and to gradually increase spending towards the goal of 2% of GDP within a decade.

So it's a target, a goal, and one which countries still have the larger part of a decade to fulfil.

It's a bit like the obligation to spend 350,000,000 on the NHS.

Red Eric Mar 21st 2017 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by Assanah (Post 12209213)
There is also a big community of Romanians in Germany. Bigger than the one in the UK. They doing quite well in Germany thank you.

Yes, they do quite well here, too and are appreciated for their contribution. I wonder if all the scroungy ones end up in the UK because of the double-page spreads and other adverts for them in the Daily Mail?

GeniB Mar 21st 2017 9:44 am

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Originally Posted by Red Eric (Post 12209298)
Yes, they do quite well here, too and are appreciated for their contribution. I wonder if all the scroungy ones end up in the UK because of the double-page spreads and other adverts for them in the Daily Mail?

A couple of wonderful ex-pat friends of mine are from Romania. They were living in NL when i was there and making a big contribution to both the company in which he worked and the general social life of ex-pats in which she made a huge contribution running one of the social clubs.
They have since moved to Boston USA with the Dutch company and are busy integrating and making a similar contribution to society.Hard working and generous people

My YD worked for a Portuguese company briefly when she first came here and found it largely compiled of Moldavians (used to be Romania) and Romanians.. the majority of which were educated way above the average Portuguese. Hard working and ambitious Moldavians are the largest group of foreigners in Portugal being in the region of 10% of those applying for citizenship.

I think the English often mistake the name of Romanians with Romany and of of course the bad connotations

Red Eric Mar 21st 2017 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 12209106)
Spain, Italy, Greece & Portugal owe massive debt of €1 trillion to ECB | World | News | Express.co.uk


"EURO states owe the European Central Bank (ECB) a staggering €1trillion as they teeter on the verge of bankruptcy amid warnings a debt bubble is on the horizon."

:thumbdown:

You never know, Dick. If Merkel's government falls later in the year and Schulz gets the nod, the Eurozone could find itself one step closer to economic governance via a separate Parliament. Then the seemingly endless refusal to find workable solutions to such problems might stand a chance of being resolved democratically.

For the moment, those of us who live in the Eurozone will have to content ourselves with the ousting of Jeroen Dijsselbloem as Eurogroup President, seeing as he will shortly no longer be his own country's Finance Minister and will therefore be ineligible to continue in his current role, let alone seek another term, as he was planning on doing. A long overdue relief and one which can only be bettered by the removal of Schäuble from his membership of the group, which I sincerely hope will happen later this year :)

Red Eric Mar 21st 2017 10:09 am

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Originally Posted by GeniB (Post 12209310)
Hard working and ambitious Moldavians are the largest group of foreigners in Portugal being in the region of 10% of those applying for citizenship.

Only if you discount Brazilians, Cape Verde Islanders, Ukrainians, Romanians, Chinese, Angolans, Brits, Guinea-Bissauans and São Tomé & Principeans.

But yeah, apart from them, Moldavians are definitely the biggest group. My hairdresser is one of them.

Red Eric Mar 21st 2017 10:24 am

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Bit of a dilemma here for the alt-right BrexiTrumpers.

Far-right millionaire: I'll use social media network to back Scottish independence

Fredbargate Mar 21st 2017 10:29 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12209280)
The views of 590 mps are ignored.
It's a bit like your attitude to the vote in Gib and that of the 48% who voted remain.

Plus you whinging and trying to ignore the 52% who voted out.

You have referred so often to your new friends in Gibraltar that people may start to believe you admire tax dodgers , tabacco barons and on line gambling supremos

Or is it simply that you cannot think of any other excuses for your stupidity?

EMR Mar 21st 2017 10:54 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12209339)
Plus you whinging and trying to ignore the 52% who voted out.

You have referred so often to your new friends in Gibraltar that people may start to believe you admire tax dodgers , tabacco barons and on line gambling supremos

Or is it simply that you cannot think of any other excuses for your stupidity?

You obviously think that those who voted remain have no say in the future direction of the UK or the vast majority in Gib who voted to remain regarding the future of your home.
Some much for brexiters and democracy.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 21st 2017 11:30 am

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On a lighter note...;)


SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon has announced plans to rebuild Hadrian’s Wall and will make England pay for it.
Shortly after Theresa May said she would block any plans for another independence referendum, Sturgeon said she would go right ahead and build a wall to keep out the meddling English.
“We never get the best of them coming across the border. No, it’s just the Tories and the other canvassing politicians – there are some good ones, too, I assume,” she told reporters.
“That’s why I’m going to build a wall, a great wall. It’s going to be so great.
“And best of all, England is going to pay for it. Yes, they are. They might say they’re not, but they will be. Yes they will.”
Sturgeon’s speech has been welcomed by Scottish Nationalists who are keen to believe literally anything they’re told as long as it contains an anti-English sentiment.


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