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Old Feb 21st 2019, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
Precisely.

'They would say that wouldn't they?'
I'm trying to be balanced in that post. I don't see any wins for companies blaming Brexit in public. It's a parting shot that's going to upset potential customers.

I also don't believe that any company would leave because of Brexit alone.

Therefore, discounting it as not part of any decision is as bad as saying it's the only reason.
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 8:29 am
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Next 10 days: implosion point imo.
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
Can someone remind me that we need a Biggest Pillock Ever category in the BE awards next Christmas please?
I'd have thought that'd be the most fiercely contested category.
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 9:47 am
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I'd have thought that'd be the most fiercely contested category.
I'm gonna have to up my game to make the shortlist.
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by Scamp View Post
Honda and Dyson are clearly not to do with Brexit - please can you substantiate this? Unless you sit somewhere near the decision for these organisations it's pure speculation.

A lot of the comments around these businesses are similarly vague. But to deny it has anything to do with their decision is imperceptive. It may not, but it may.

It's a pretty pointless argument unless the business comes out and says it, but I imagine it would be rubbished if they did anyway. Potentially easier to just avoid it? How many businesses selling to UK consumers want to upset 17million leave voters / customers by saying it's their fault jobs have been cut and their fault that business has moved operations out of the UK? Not very PR savvy.
There's not even any logic for these two companies to be related to brexit.

Why would Dyson moving its HO to Singapore be related to Brexit? What is the reason that Brexit would drive that decision?
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
There's not even any logic for these two companies to be related to brexit.

Why would Dyson moving its HO to Singapore be related to Brexit? What is the reason that Brexit would drive that decision?
I'm not saying it is, I used those two company names because they kept being repeated....but let's face it they are two of potentially very many where it could play a role (large or small) in their decision making.

Dyson, for example, have worked very, very hard to distance the decision from Brexit. Timing is interesting though, Singapore sign a deal with the EU and Dyson have had facilities across Asia for years but never moved. How could people not assume they're linked?
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Originally Posted by Scamp View Post
I'm not saying it is, I used those two company names because they kept being repeated....but let's face it they are two of potentially very many where it could play a role (large or small) in their decision making.

Dyson, for example, have worked very, very hard to distance the decision from Brexit. Timing is interesting though, Singapore sign a deal with the EU and Dyson have had facilities across Asia for years but never moved. How could people not assume they're linked?
Again, what is the possible reason they are linked?
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Again, what is the possible reason they are linked?
Again, I'm not saying it is.

What do you think about the timing of the decision? Could that mean there is a something related that the board have decided to act upon, providing a link we don't know about?
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by Scamp View Post
Again, I'm not saying it is.

What do you think about the timing of the decision? Could that mean there is a something related that the board have decided to act upon, providing a link we don't know about?
You make a fair point on timing. Why now?
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by Shard View Post
You make a fair point on timing. Why now?
It might be totally unrelated, it might not.

But anyway, my point is that we don't know.

There are many small businesses who have a collectively large contribution who may suffer, at least initially, because of a Brexit no deal situation. It's mental.
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Originally Posted by Scamp View Post
It might be totally unrelated, it might not.

But anyway, my point is that we don't know.

There are many small businesses who have a collectively large contribution who may suffer, at least initially, because of a Brexit no deal situation. It's mental.
And like you (or someone else) said, they will not mention Brexit in order not to p**s off 17 million Brexiteers.
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 10:54 am
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I'm gonna have to up my game to make the shortlist.
Stop with the height references. You'll offend someone
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Juncker, after meeting May again (poor man) :

Brexit is deconstruction, it is not construction. Brexit is the past, it is not the future. We are trying to deliver our best efforts in order to have this Brexit being organised in a proper, civilised, well-thought-out way. But we are not there, because in the British parliament there is, every time they are voting, a majority against something, there is never a majority in favour of something.

And this is completely May's fault (again). She was asked to put a free vote on the table with all possibilities in order to see what would have a majority in Parliament but she declined.
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee View Post
Stop with the height references. You'll offend someone
Sorry chief but the only height I can think of is the height of the pint glass that will be in my hand in about 90mins when I sprint from the office for the weekend. Not that you'll believe me, but I deserve beer for this week at work (which ironically has been dominated by Dyson in Singapore)....
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Again, what is the possible reason they are linked?
Here's a few:

By all accounts, the UK is at the highest risk of falling into a seriously damaging abyss. Perhaps unintentional, but the risk is very high. Businesses can't risk waiting until it happens to make a decision on how to protect themselves from it.

Government appears clueless and determined to pursue ideological, rather than practical aspirations.

And in any case, the UK set to leave its membership in the world's largest trading bloc, which is why many businesses established roots in the UK in the first place.

There are plenty of other jurisdictions in the world where they can prosper. Britain is looking pretty risky now.
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