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Old Oct 21st 2018, 12:08 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Only 15.75 million to go to compare to the country's opinion of 17,410,742
Surely you agree with : No-one voted for this bloody shambles ?
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 12:15 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

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Surely you agree with : No-one voted for this bloody shambles ?
It's not a shambles, only in the triggered remainiac minds.

It could be progressing quicker and with more clarity, but that's the problem of having remainers in charge of leaving and having a powerful elitist remainer 5th column lobby working with the EU to subvert the vote.
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 2:33 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

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It's not a shambles...
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 4:25 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Amd when you say "majority" you mean "minority" right?

And hardly silent, they haven't stopped their petulant crying and whinging since losing the vote.
Results of multiple polls by YouGov this year have consistently shown Remain would defeat Leave in a 2nd referendum. The polling suggests that up to one million voters have had regrets and changed their minds. It makes sense, considering the ongoing exit chaos and dire economic consequences that are now apparent.
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Results of multiple polls by YouGov this year have consistently shown Remain would defeat Leave in a 2nd referendum. The polling suggests that up to one million voters have had regrets and changed their minds. It makes sense, considering the ongoing exit chaos and dire economic consequences that are now apparent.
Fair enough, but ... what did the opinion polls say BEFORE the Brexit vote ...? I seem to recall, a large 'remain' sentiment.
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 6:12 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
It's not a shambles...
Stupid McStupidpost.
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 6:22 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Fair enough, but ... what did the opinion polls say BEFORE the Brexit vote ...? I seem to recall, a large 'remain' sentiment.
Yep - very large Remain sentiment. About 50/50 with the large Leave sentiment.
22 June 2016: Still no consistent picture

A final set of polls continues to give an unclear picture of the referendum outcome.

The gap between internet and telephone polls, which has been a feature throughout the campaign, still seems to be present.

Three online polls and one telephone poll have been released today.

Online polls by Opinium, TNS and YouGov are close to a dead heat. The single phone poll by ComRes gives Remain a modest lead.

Opinium and TNS put Leave ahead by very narrow margins: one point and two points respectively. YouGov also has the result practically neck and neck.
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 6:41 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

Originally Posted by Cape Blue View Post
Only 15.75 million to go to compare to the country's opinion of 17,410,742
How many do you think would turn up at a "we already voted and we stand by our 'leave' vote" rally?
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 6:58 pm
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How many do you think would turn up at a "we already voted and we stand by our 'leave' vote" rally?
Nige had his ''get together'' LEAVE MEANS LEAVE in Harrogate (who voted remain). Think I posted a Sky video from 1 of his fans.

Got the same coverage time on the BBC I've been told.
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 7:38 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

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Nige had his ''get together'' LEAVE MEANS LEAVE in Harrogate (who voted remain). Think I posted a Sky video from 1 of his fans.
Yes, I just came across it. I came back here to say "Oh there was one...in a room somewhere" but it doesn't have the same effect now
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 7:44 pm
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Default Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc

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Only 15.75 million to go to compare to the country's opinion of 17,410,742
What about the 16,141,241, do they have right to say something?

Say there was to be a second refererendum (Leave/Remain) at what % Remain do you think it would be reasonable to favour the second vote over the first. At 52% Remain it would be tricky, 55% Remain? 65%% 75% 90% ? Where would you set the bar?
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Old Oct 21st 2018, 7:53 pm
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What about the 16,141,241, do they have right to say something?

Say there was to be a second refererendum (Leave/Remain) at what % Remain do you think it would be reasonable to favour the second vote over the first. At 52% Remain it would be tricky, 55% Remain? 65%% 75% 90% ? Where would you set the bar?
They have the right and indeed obligation to accept democracy.
There will not be a second vote, nor should there be.
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They have the right and indeed obligation to accept democracy.
There will not be a second vote, nor should there be.
Likewise. The weekend demonstration was a call for a democratic vote. Such things are not fixed in stone, despite the opportunistic Leavers desire to frame it that way.

You could answer my hypothetical if your mind is not too closed.
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Likewise. The weekend demonstration was a call for a democratic vote. Such things are not fixed in stone, despite the opportunistic Leavers desire to frame it that way.

You could answer my hypothetical if your mind is not too closed.
The democratic vote needs to be enacted before a future change can be made.

There's no need - I'm not a great fan of referendums.

Keep up the ad-hom, it makes you look so much more intellectual.
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The democratic vote needs to be enacted before a future change can be made.

There's no need - I'm not a great fan of referendums.

Keep up the ad-hom, it makes you look so much more intellectual.
Says he for whom everyone else is petulant. Such irony.

Whether you're a fan of referendums or not is irrelevant. We had one, and there's an outside possibility of another. The question is designed to make you think, but if you don't have the capacity to do so, I won't hold it against you. You're set in your ways and see things in black and white, and that's fine.
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