Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Oct 18th 2018, 1:41 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by Shard
Collateral damage. In order to tar someone he dislikes with the foreigner-brush (an odious thing in itself) he has to invoke the USA presidential exception for natural born citizens, and claim that he is as against Boris taking high office as Miller campaigning for legislative authority. It's not easy denying ones true nature, I guess. As the natural born president of the USA would tweet, Sad!
But then he is a Brexiteer...
Oct 18th 2018, 1:46 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by jimenato
It's an odd view isn't it?
But then he is a Brexiteer...
But then he is a Brexiteer...
Oct 18th 2018, 1:47 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by jimenato
What view have I expressed that makes you think I'm not a Thatcherite Conservative?
He was very young back then so I suppose it's understandable.
Oct 18th 2018, 1:48 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by DigitalGhost
Yes. What's your point?
Oct 18th 2018, 1:50 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by jimenato
Yet to get an answer on that one so I'll have a guess and that is that DG thinks that MT was anti-Europe so I should be - it's all I can think of.
He was very young back then so I suppose it's understandable.
He was very young back then so I suppose it's understandable.
Oct 18th 2018, 1:57 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by jimenato
That lots of Brexiteers have odd views.
“Well, we can tell a lot from that one question,” said GP Simon Williams.
“For example, if the patient remains optimistic about what Britain will be like after Brexit, then we can conclude that he’s very, very stupid.
“Whereas, if they think that Brexit is currently going quite well, we can immediately assume that they’re utterly delusional and treat anything else they say as complete fantasy.
“If they’re the sort of Brexiter who thinks that we should just be telling the EU to sod off and cutting all ties with them immediately, then we assume they’re dangerous to themselves and others and take appropriate precautions.”
“For example, if the patient remains optimistic about what Britain will be like after Brexit, then we can conclude that he’s very, very stupid.
“Whereas, if they think that Brexit is currently going quite well, we can immediately assume that they’re utterly delusional and treat anything else they say as complete fantasy.
“If they’re the sort of Brexiter who thinks that we should just be telling the EU to sod off and cutting all ties with them immediately, then we assume they’re dangerous to themselves and others and take appropriate precautions.”
Oct 18th 2018, 2:00 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
POLITICS.
Anyone want to hazard a guess where we are in the process. Seems like on one hand discussions in Brussels are progressing, but whatever backstop (NI or UK remaining in the CU) is agreed, it will not pass through parliament. Extending transition period seems a red herring. So I'm guessing snap GE on the cards, and then something of a re-set. Either a full hard Brexit (courtesy of the BJ lads, Boris and Jacob) or a Remain fudge (courtesy of the Red Devil).
Anyone want to hazard a guess where we are in the process. Seems like on one hand discussions in Brussels are progressing, but whatever backstop (NI or UK remaining in the CU) is agreed, it will not pass through parliament. Extending transition period seems a red herring. So I'm guessing snap GE on the cards, and then something of a re-set. Either a full hard Brexit (courtesy of the BJ lads, Boris and Jacob) or a Remain fudge (courtesy of the Red Devil).
Oct 18th 2018, 2:11 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by DigitalGhost
Shame.
And I don't call interfering with our democratic process doing something good for the country. I'd consider it to be the opposite of that in fact.
And I don't call interfering with our democratic process doing something good for the country. I'd consider it to be the opposite of that in fact.
Maybe your interpretation of democracy involves bypassing elected MPs, but mine involves them.
Oct 18th 2018, 2:11 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by EMR
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The hole you digging for yourself is getting so deep that you could come up in Aus where you will probably be deported as an unwelcome foreigner..
The hole you digging for yourself is getting so deep that you could come up in Aus where you will probably be deported as an unwelcome foreigner..
Oct 18th 2018, 2:16 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by Shard
POLITICS.
Anyone want to hazard a guess where we are in the process. .
Anyone want to hazard a guess where we are in the process. .
Some reports are suggesting that the EU is fed up and will focus on creating its own plan for the "no deal" scenario, to be used until the UK can get its act together.
Oct 18th 2018, 2:21 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Depends where you look. Yesterday, the Express had a screaming headline of "BETRAYED" while the BBC's was something along the lines of "Extra time for transition possible".
Some reports are suggesting that the EU is fed up and will focus on creating its own plan for the "no deal" scenario, to be used until the UK can get its act together.
Some reports are suggesting that the EU is fed up and will focus on creating its own plan for the "no deal" scenario, to be used until the UK can get its act together.
Oct 18th 2018, 2:22 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by DigitalGhost
**** off.
**** off.
Oct 18th 2018, 2:22 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by DigitalGhost
By far her biggest achievement though is convincing all of these far leftists and liberal morons that she is some sort of working class hero and libertarian. And as usual they lapped it up with a spoon because she was saying what they wanted to hear.
I've certainly never said a single thing about her being working class or a hero of the working classes. Just someone who was well organised and performed a rather necessary duty at the time it needed performing. If it hadn't been her, somebody else would have done it.
It's your guys who keep virtue signalling about your apparent concerns for the working classes and touting Brexit as their saviour. It's all bollocks of course - the contempt of the leading Brexiteers for the working classes is palpable.
Oct 18th 2018, 2:27 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by Red Eric
I don't know where you got any of that from and most of the people on here who've made any comment at all on her are anything but "far leftist".
I've certainly never said a single thing about her being working class or a hero of the working classes. Just someone who was well organised and performed a rather necessary duty at the time it needed performing. If it hadn't been her, somebody else would have done it.
It's your guys who keep virtue signalling about your apparent concerns for the working classes and touting Brexit as their saviour. It's all bollocks of course - the contempt of the leading Brexiteers for the working classes is palpable.
I've certainly never said a single thing about her being working class or a hero of the working classes. Just someone who was well organised and performed a rather necessary duty at the time it needed performing. If it hadn't been her, somebody else would have done it.
It's your guys who keep virtue signalling about your apparent concerns for the working classes and touting Brexit as their saviour. It's all bollocks of course - the contempt of the leading Brexiteers for the working classes is palpable.
The whole undignified and entirely unnecessary mess of this self-inflicted wound is frankly embarrassing.
Oct 18th 2018, 2:28 pm
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Re: Politics of Chequers, No Deal, etc
Originally Posted by jimenato
What view have I expressed that makes you think I'm not a Thatcherite Conservative?
DG still lapses into calling all remainers leftists. And commies.
